Comments on: Spies and Hackers http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/ Utterly random, incoherent and disjointed rants and ramblings... Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:35:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Terminally Incoherent » Blog Archive » Live Free or Die Stupid (aka Die Hard 4) http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-10132 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:34:05 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-10132 [...] I saw Live Free or Die Hard few days ago and I must say that I’m really glad that I did not actually waste money to see this piece of crap on the big screen. But gut instinct is to automatically pass on any movies that feature hackers or cyber terrorism because Hollywood always gets these things horribly wrong. Watching the new installment of the Die Hard was a bit like watching The Net all over again. The level of technical expertise and realism in this movie was about the same. And in all fairness, The Net is probably a better movie of the two simply because it contains Sandra Bullock in her prime, and does not contain Justin Long who seriously needs to get punched in the face with a sledge hammer. [...] […] I saw Live Free or Die Hard few days ago and I must say that I’m really glad that I did not actually waste money to see this piece of crap on the big screen. But gut instinct is to automatically pass on any movies that feature hackers or cyber terrorism because Hollywood always gets these things horribly wrong. Watching the new installment of the Die Hard was a bit like watching The Net all over again. The level of technical expertise and realism in this movie was about the same. And in all fairness, The Net is probably a better movie of the two simply because it contains Sandra Bullock in her prime, and does not contain Justin Long who seriously needs to get punched in the face with a sledge hammer. […]

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6432 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:23:52 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6432 Yeah, transformers also had that "staring at code streaming across the screen faster than you could read while randomly typing at the keyboard", the 3 dimensional floating code and super ultra graphical effects for hacking :P Didn't watch the newest DieHard though. It's funny how they all want to have some cool technology shit in their movies to pretend they are all cool, modern and hip, but no one ever bothers to hire a consultant or do the research into these things. Sigh... Yeah, transformers also had that “staring at code streaming across the screen faster than you could read while randomly typing at the keyboard”, the 3 dimensional floating code and super ultra graphical effects for hacking P

Didn’t watch the newest DieHard though.

It’s funny how they all want to have some cool technology shit in their movies to pretend they are all cool, modern and hip, but no one ever bothers to hire a consultant or do the research into these things. Sigh…

]]> by: jambarama http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6427 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:33:56 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6427 I think the new Transformers and new Die Hard both have some terribly laughable "hacker" parts. The very thought that there are these phenomenally talented "hackers," that can break anything, just sitting around in poverty and obscurity is ridiculous. Never mind Transformers was only a good movie if you cut out the people and muted the dialog, the whole "Kevin Mitnick can launch nuclear warheads by getting his hands on a phone" needs to go. Hackers are not all powerful. The talented ones have decent paying jobs (in security if they have ethics, elsewhere if not). If you want to find a hacker, read nmap (or equivalent) lists, and those contributing to things like metasploit. I think the new Transformers and new Die Hard both have some terribly laughable “hacker” parts. The very thought that there are these phenomenally talented “hackers,” that can break anything, just sitting around in poverty and obscurity is ridiculous. Never mind Transformers was only a good movie if you cut out the people and muted the dialog, the whole “Kevin Mitnick can launch nuclear warheads by getting his hands on a phone” needs to go. Hackers are not all powerful. The talented ones have decent paying jobs (in security if they have ethics, elsewhere if not). If you want to find a hacker, read nmap (or equivalent) lists, and those contributing to things like metasploit.

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6273 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:24:38 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6273 Nah. I doubt that the government had anything to do with bastardization of a jargon term that initially had positive connotation along the lines of "someone incredibly good with computers" into "someone who breaks into your computer". Btw, I love how you commented on a post alluding to the movie "Hackers" with your email being zerocool but your display name says Crash. LOL For those who don't get the joke - these are two h4x0r nicknames used by the protagonist in the movie. Nah. I doubt that the government had anything to do with bastardization of a jargon term that initially had positive connotation along the lines of “someone incredibly good with computers” into “someone who breaks into your computer”.

Btw, I love how you commented on a post alluding to the movie “Hackers” with your email being zerocool but your display name says Crash. LOL

For those who don’t get the joke - these are two h4×0r nicknames used by the protagonist in the movie.

]]> by: Crrash http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6269 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:47:42 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-6269 An ex-hacker myself. Over time the term hacker changes due to the public and the media. Why? The answer to this can be very complicated and hard to understand. But one thing is for sure the gov. and media always has an answer for everything which they do. I think that they have changed the worlds opinion about hackers. I will see you all soon, as hack-the-world is coming "SOON"!HARD TO UNDERSTAND it will come to you all soon, An ex-hacker myself. Over time the term hacker changes due to the public and the media. Why? The answer to this can be very complicated and hard to understand. But one thing is for sure the gov. and media always has an answer for everything which they do. I think that they have changed the worlds opinion about hackers. I will see you all soon, as hack-the-world is coming “SOON”!HARD TO UNDERSTAND it will come to you all soon,

]]> by: Craig Betts http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-5918 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:21:22 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-5918 <blockquote>I saw Tron - not in a movie theater though. I was 1 year old when it came out. LOL </blockquote> Now I feel old . . . Tron will always have a special place in my heart. I saw it in the theater and used to watch it on an almost weekly basis with my best friend all through our school years. I have it on just about every form of media it was released on including VHS (three versions plus 20th anny), Betamax, Video Disc (the original one where you slid the entire sleeve into the machine), later video disc, DVD (original and 20th anny). I even got to meet Steven Lisberger, Richard Taylor and Frank Serafine at Video Games Live last September. <a href="http://www.bettssoftware.com/blog/?p=81" rel="nofollow">LINKY</a>

I saw Tron - not in a movie theater though. I was 1 year old when it came out. LOL

Now I feel old . . .

Tron will always have a special place in my heart. I saw it in the theater and used to watch it on an almost weekly basis with my best friend all through our school years. I have it on just about every form of media it was released on including VHS (three versions plus 20th anny), Betamax, Video Disc (the original one where you slid the entire sleeve into the machine), later video disc, DVD (original and 20th anny).

I even got to meet Steven Lisberger, Richard Taylor and Frank Serafine at Video Games Live last September. LINKY

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-5917 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:07:27 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-5917 I saw Tron - not in a movie theater though. I was 1 year old when it came out. LOL I haven't seen the rest. I probably should. I'm putting them on my "movies to see" list. Especially <em>Sneakers</em> - everyone keeps asking me if I saw that movie. I saw Tron - not in a movie theater though. I was 1 year old when it came out. LOL

I haven’t seen the rest. I probably should. I’m putting them on my “movies to see” list. Especially Sneakers - everyone keeps asking me if I saw that movie.

]]> by: karen http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-5915 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:27:01 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-5915 Okay, y'all. Other "hacker" movies: Sneakers (1992) The Conversation (1974) Real Genius (1985) Enemy of the State (1998) Tron (1982) Revolution OS (2001) Depends on what you term "hacking". <em>The Conversation </em>is about electronic surveillance, so it's definitely hardware intensive. <em>Sneakers</em> deals with theives and spies, but it's a good flick. Real Genius is just an awesome geek movie, again hardware intensive. And, of course, <em>Tron</em> is a classic. And just so you can make fun of me, I waited in line at the theater all day to see that movie when I was a kid. (Saw <em>Star Wars </em> in the theater when it was first released, too!). <em>Revolution OS </em>is, of course, a documentary, and is definitely the most true to life. Best "hacker" book of all time: <em>The Cuckoo's Egg </em>by Cliff Stoll. - krf Okay, y’all. Other “hacker” movies:

Sneakers (1992)

The Conversation (1974)

Real Genius (1985)

Enemy of the State (1998)

Tron (1982)

Revolution OS (2001)

Depends on what you term “hacking”. The Conversation is about electronic surveillance, so it’s definitely hardware intensive.

Sneakers deals with theives and spies, but it’s a good flick.

Real Genius is just an awesome geek movie, again hardware intensive.

And, of course, Tron is a classic. And just so you can make fun of me, I waited in line at the theater all day to see that movie when I was a kid. (Saw Star Wars in the theater when it was first released, too!).

Revolution OS is, of course, a documentary, and is definitely the most true to life.

Best “hacker” book of all time: The Cuckoo’s Egg by Cliff Stoll.

- krf

]]> by: Travis McCrea http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-3075 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:56:39 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-3075 Half my post got cut off because I like to use the anime face... I was 5 when Hackers came out. The most recent hacking movie i saw (that wasnt swordfish because i only watch that to see the scene with hallie barrie topless) is FireWall Which wasn't half bad... Half my post got cut off because I like to use the anime face…
I was 5 when Hackers came out.

The most recent hacking movie i saw (that wasnt swordfish because i only watch that to see the scene with hallie barrie topless) is FireWall Which wasn’t half bad…

]]> by: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-3073 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:52:49 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/01/15/spies-and-hackers/#comment-3073 Hehe... Come on, the comments about Angelina Jolie should have been a dead giveaway. Matrix actually did some pretty realistic stuff in addition to the crazy cgi stuff. When Trinity breaks into the power plant's system you can see nmap output on her screen, and then catch a glimpse of her running an old ssh exploit to root the system. Hehe… Come on, the comments about Angelina Jolie should have been a dead giveaway.

Matrix actually did some pretty realistic stuff in addition to the crazy cgi stuff. When Trinity breaks into the power plant’s system you can see nmap output on her screen, and then catch a glimpse of her running an old ssh exploit to root the system.

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