CNN Readers have no love for Vista

I’m totally loving this poll:

Vista CNN Poll
source – cnn.com; click to enlarge

It seems that few people are rushing to get Vista. In fact, there are more CNN readers who do don’t care about the new OS at all, than those who are installing it as we speak.

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23 Responses to CNN Readers have no love for Vista

  1. Becky UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Vista will probably be alright after the seventh update. But I just wish it did not give occasion for all the appearances of Bill the Third:)

    ~Becky

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  2. Miloš UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    It has good and not so good components and ideas. Major pain are the hardware requirements and the difference in the GUI which will confuse most non-technical users.

    Bottom line – I wouldn’t want to still be at MSU when Vista gets deployed. :)

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  3. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Vista – the only OS in existence designed by Holywood execs, for the sole purpose of letting the users do less with their media.

    Thanks, but no – that is my attitude towards that system. I’m not installing Vista until it is virtually impossible for me to play games on XP.

    I’ll probably gonna buy a MacBook in the near future (when my current laptop falls apart – which is expected to happen soon). I’m running Linux on various machines all around – the only thing I really need Windows for is games.

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  4. Craig Betts UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Solaris Terminalist says:

    Not much of a surprise really. Wait until MacOSX Leopard comes out. Everybody that can will be upgrading! :-D

    Gotta love Mac for the painless upgrades. No driver issues, no registry bloat, no restrictions on hardware upgrades.

    Yeah, there are a few reasons not to own a Mac . . .

    EXAMPLE 1

    EXAMPLE 2

    Oh well . . . we all have our cross to bare . . .

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  5. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Ubuntu Linux says:

    What I really like in Mac is the BSD underpinnings. Deep down inside, it’s a unix like OS – only with a really sexy desktop environment.

    Btw, I haven’t watched the vids you linked to – I have no sound card here at work.

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  6. elephantman UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    And now to convert the rest of the people to linux.

    A friend of mine works for Microsoft (he hates it) building hardware.
    They upgraded to Vista and he hacked (he vaguely described it) the security on it. Something about a firewall.
    Don’t know, but loved the interview with Bill gates squirming like a little girl. Mac is better, but I’m looking at Linux.

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  7. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox SuSE Linux says:

    I think that Microsoft will be the first and only organization to completely transition to Vista in the next 3-4 years. :P

    There is just no way IT departments can justify purcahsing millions of dollars of new desktops just because the relatively new machines bought in the last 3 years won’t be able to run the new OS.

    MS always talks about the windows TCO being lower – but in case of Vista transition this is not going to fly. No matter how their marketing department spins it, replacing half or more of your hardware is not something that will bring the TCO down.

    Btw – which interview you refer to elephantman? Bill Gates was on every friken chanel lately. I was flipping trhough, and I saw him like 3 times on different shows one day. :|

    Btw, I love how interviewers always ask him questions about the future of the industry, and new innovations. Ha! As if Microsoft ever innovated anything.

    Their current R&D strategy seems to be “Whatever ______ can do, we can do better…” Fill in the blank with a name of a leading company in a given market. They made Xbox because Sony had a huge sucess with Playstation. They made Zune because Apple killed with the iPod. They made Vista look like OSX because people really liked the eyecandy…

    Btw, how is it that OSX can have really nice GUI and run on modest hardware just fine, but Vista Areo Glass which is essentially trying to be OSX needs a high end graphics card, a strong CPU and a few gigs of memory?

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  8. Elephantman UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    I do believe it was [→ bill gates lists microsoft innovations]

    Pretty funny reading the outling defense to his prattling.

    Yes you’re right. Although, I may have to disagree a little. The Zune is by far more compatible, and I (sorry) fucking hate Apple. Apple’s DRM is ridiculously incompatible, can’t do anything. Anything is better then apple’s ipod. Now mac iis a different story.

    Now I will give Apple credit. But I remember some mp3 player that came out six years ago, and it wasn’t apple…

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  9. Craig Betts UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Solaris Terminalist says:

    Well, Apple is really just using the OS from NeXT . . .

    But it is much better than Windoze!

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  10. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox SuSE Linux says:

    It’s also part BSD on account of the Darwin core, no?

    Btw, did you know that Višta means chicken in Lithuanian?

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  11. Craig Betts UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Solaris Terminalist says:

    It’s also part BSD on account of the Darwin core, no?

    Well, originally, yes. It has little resemblance to BSD now. Kinda like how Solaris is System V . . . ish.

    It is really hard to distinguish UNIX as System V or BSD nowadays.

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  12. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox SuSE Linux says:

    Yeah, it is not really BSD anymore. But you still shoud be able to compile generic unix/linux code on it, provided that you can find all the dependencies for it. Or not?

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  13. Craig Betts UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Solaris Terminalist says:

    Yeah, it is not really BSD anymore. But you still shoud be able to compile generic unix/linux code on it, provided that you can find all the dependencies for it. Or not?

    Pretty much. Most of the software that I have issues with is because of the libraries aren’t quite the same. However, there is a big push in the OSS field to make code compaitble with OSX. :-D Darwin Ports and Fink have been some fine projects to push this initiative.

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  14. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox SuSE Linux says:

    Elephantman – thanks for the link. I trimmed the URL a little bit so that it doesn’t mess oup the spacing in the post so much.

    The Zune is by far more compatible, and I (sorry) fucking hate Apple. Apple’s DRM is ridiculously incompatible, can’t do anything. Anything is better then apple’s ipod.

    Zune DRM is just as evil as the iTunes DRM. In fact, Zune’s DRM is viral. If you put a standard mp3 on ZUNE it will be wrapped into the Zune DRM whether you want it or not. The songs bought from Zune store will only work on Zune.

    At least on the iPod you can store un-protected mp3′s and transfer them from one unit to another. With Zune that’s not possible.

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  15. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox SuSE Linux says:

    Craig – I think I saw Darwin Ports. I didn’t know about Fink. I’m saving these for future reference (ie. if and when I get a Mac). :)

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  16. Elephantman UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Oh, didn’t know. I have a Creative.
    I read about the Zune on here

    Sorry bout the link, would have used TinyURL this morning but wasn’t thinking. Supposed to wake up at 5:30 but I was an hour later then that, with only a cup of Columbian (Walmart brand, he he.)

    When I get a few hundred more $, I’ll get a PC desktop, some kind… I’m planning to try Linux Vector.

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  17. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox SuSE Linux says:

    I haven’t tried Vector. I’m a Debian/Ubuntu guy myself. :mrgreen:

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  18. Craig Betts UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Mac OS Terminalist says:

    Vector Linux is good for newbies. I used to run it a few years ago. They pretty much took out the guesswork of what packages you get to install. The only choice is X. It is pretty much all or nothing. I also liked the Slackware packages. If I needed something added, I just went to the Slackware site to get it.

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  19. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Does it have apt like package manager though? Most of modern linux distros have them nowadays.

    RH and Fedora have Yum. Gentoo has portage (ok, it’s different from apt, but similar idea). Mandrake… I mean Mandriva (hate that name) has urpmi. SuSE has Yast. FreeBSD has ports (ok, not Linux, but still)

    I’m not aware of anything like that for Slack though.

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  20. Craig Betts UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Mac OS Terminalist says:

    No, it uses the tgz archives like SlackWare. Vector was designed for ease of installation, not necessarily ease of manageability. I recommend sticking with the big names (Red Hat, Debian, Novell/SuSe) if this is a requirement.

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  21. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Well, that’s just my preference but I figured that someone new to linux would probably enjoy having a package management system like that. Or maybe not.

    Personally, I prefer to use Debian based systems with apt (like Ubuntu), rather than RPM based stuff. But that’s just me.

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  22. Elephantman UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    I will probably dip my fingers here and there. There was one point where I was downloading Ubuntu, but, a magical voice came from nowhere and told me not to. And so I didn’t.

    Anyway I’m stuck using someone else’s laptop, and the school’s public comps,
    fortunately, they haven’t blocked this blog for some reason.

    Fedora was sounding better; I read that it’s better then Red Hat, and that it owns Red Hat; has more features and such. I don’t know, but I may just want to be a newb for awhile instead of diving into a pool of bullshit.
    Not to say it’s bullshit, my friend.

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  23. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Here is how it goes:

    Red Hat used to have a free community edition in the past. They discontinued that and now thy concentrate on paying enterprise clients.

    In the meantime they started the Fedora foundation for developing a free version of linux based on Red Hat core.

    So Fedora is the community testbed for all the bleeding edge stuff. They incorporate all the risky kernel modules, new applications, do the security tweaks and etc… Whatever works in Fedora is usually later adopted by Red Hat in their newest stable version.

    Ubuntu on the other hand is owned by a multi millionaire Mark Shuttleworth who essentially just throws money at the project. If you don’t believe me, look it up. ;)

    Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it aims for a much faster development cycle. When Debian releases new version of their OS every 3-4 years, Ubunu gets a new version out every 6 months.

    Also, Debian based distributions are a piece of cake to upgrade.

    For example to go from Hoary to Dapper all I had to do was to change every refference to Hoary to Dapper in my /etc/apt/sources.list and then just run:

    apt-get update
    apt-get dist-upgrade

    An hour or so later I had a shiny updated OS, with all my data and settings remaining intact.

    This is one of the reasons why I like Debian based systems – the ease of upgrading to a new release, installing new packages and etc..

    Both Ubuntu and Fedora are fine systems though.

    The best way to start with Linux is to install it on your old computer. When you upgrade to a new machine, just take the old junker and install linux on it. It will be slow, but most Linux distributions are much nicer for the old hardware than WinXP.

    Once you have a computer that you don’t really “need” for work or school, you can just go nuts and play around. If you trash it (which is unlikely with most modern Linux distros) you can just format it and start over. :)

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