Comments on: How will Apple Use Win-Safari to improve the web. http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/ Utterly random, incoherent and disjointed rants and ramblings... Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:16:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-8823 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:08:48 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-8823 Yup, they are tricky and evil. But sometimes enemy of your enemy is your friend. They are standards compliant at lest. That said, I take Opera or Firefox any day over Safari. I'm a Firefox user, but I give credit where it's due to Opera as the faster and more compliant alternative. Yup, they are tricky and evil. But sometimes enemy of your enemy is your friend. They are standards compliant at lest.

That said, I take Opera or Firefox any day over Safari. I’m a Firefox user, but I give credit where it’s due to Opera as the faster and more compliant alternative.

]]> by: masterofopera http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-8821 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:54:26 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-8821 Safari 3 is normally fast, but it uses much more resources than Opera and only a bit less than Firefox. Deactivate the "Bojour Service" and Safari get as slow as Snail. Safari 3 beta was more buggy than an alpha of Opera or an EARLY beta of Firefox, only IE8 beta was more buggy (IE8 beta feeled like a pre-alpha). Apple´s new company politics to bundle its browser with software YOU want or need is inspired by Micro$oft. Pupil (steve Jobs) : Safari BETA is marked by default next to Quicktime in the update-list of Allpe-Software-Update (for Windows) , Quicktime tight bundled with iTunes. Teachers (Billgatus -> Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer) : Micro$oft Internet Exploder is UNSEPARATEABLE bundled with Windows. I do not hate Firefox (or safari), but I only love Opera! Safari 3 is normally fast, but it uses much more resources than
Opera and only a bit less than Firefox.
Deactivate the “Bojour Service” and Safari get as slow as Snail.

Safari 3 beta was more buggy than an alpha of Opera or
an EARLY beta of Firefox, only IE8 beta was more buggy (IE8 beta
feeled like a pre-alpha).

Apple´s new company politics to bundle its browser with software
YOU want or need is inspired by Micro$oft.

Pupil (steve Jobs) :
Safari BETA is marked by default next to Quicktime in the update-list
of Allpe-Software-Update (for Windows) ,
Quicktime tight bundled with iTunes.

Teachers (Billgatus -> Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer) :
Micro$oft Internet Exploder is UNSEPARATEABLE bundled with Windows.

I do not hate Firefox (or safari), but I only love Opera!

]]> by: Matt` http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4849 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:46:59 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4849 Apple's bundling annoys the crap out of me, I install Quicktime so that Firefox doesn't crash every time Stumbleupon brings up a Quicktime object and suddenly I have iTunes (it was swiftly uninstalled). Also the fact that the Quicktime startup process somehow re-enables itself even after its been turned off via msconfig. Not even considering Safari - I love my Firefox and all the stuff I'm hearing about it being slow and buggy aren't exactly encouraging Apple’s bundling annoys the crap out of me, I install Quicktime so that Firefox doesn’t crash every time Stumbleupon brings up a Quicktime object and suddenly I have iTunes (it was swiftly uninstalled).

Also the fact that the Quicktime startup process somehow re-enables itself even after its been turned off via msconfig.

Not even considering Safari - I love my Firefox and all the stuff I’m hearing about it being slow and buggy aren’t exactly encouraging

]]> by: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4836 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:40:23 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4836 Last time I checked the Netscape browser was buggy, bloated and actually would break your IE installation. If I recall correctly it would break IE's XML rendering library. After that I never even wanted to touch that thing. Last time I checked the Netscape browser was buggy, bloated and actually would break your IE installation. If I recall correctly it would break IE’s XML rendering library.

After that I never even wanted to touch that thing.

]]> by: Starhawk http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4835 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:11:47 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4835 As is usually the case for ya this is hilarious :D But i agree with you too many are blogging about Safari right now, and of course your analysis is sorta obvious, a brilliant business move i must say. lmao. But no way I will ditch FF the extensions have me sold as well as the ease of customization. For that I will put up with some of the extensions perhaps being a bit buggy or FF not being as fast as maybe Opera is or the overall memory foot print of FF + tons addons. Safari is tho kinda pretty and surely gotta be better than IE, despite the fact lots of people are saying its still buggy. Surely apple will fix most of those kinds of problems. Regardless tho I will probably not even download it. My use of windows is pretty minimum these days ;) Anyway when i play with web design i test it on FF first and IE is the very last browser i check it out on. I hate IE, damn! btw what ya think of Netscape's newest browser? Looks like a FF clone to me haha but perhaps it will grow in popularity. Tho I doubt it will grow as fast as Safari or threaten FF growing popularity. I haven't tried it yet tho. As is usually the case for ya this is hilarious D But i agree with you too many are blogging about Safari right now, and of course your analysis is sorta obvious, a brilliant business move i must say. lmao. But no way I will ditch FF the extensions have me sold as well as the ease of customization. For that I will put up with some of the extensions perhaps being a bit buggy or FF not being as fast as maybe Opera is or the overall memory foot print of FF + tons addons. Safari is tho kinda pretty and surely gotta be better than IE, despite the fact lots of people are saying its still buggy. Surely apple will fix most of those kinds of problems. Regardless tho I will probably not even download it. My use of windows is pretty minimum these days )

Anyway when i play with web design i test it on FF first and IE is the very last browser i check it out on. I hate IE, damn!

btw what ya think of Netscape’s newest browser? Looks like a FF clone to me haha but perhaps it will grow in popularity. Tho I doubt it will grow as fast as Safari or threaten FF growing popularity. I haven’t tried it yet tho.

]]> by: Terminally Incoherent » Blog Archive » Safari on Windows: Bonjur Slowing Down MS Office http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4834 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:07:57 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4834 [...] « How will Apple Use Win-Safari to improve the web. [...] […] « How will Apple Use Win-Safari to improve the web. […]

]]> by: Viswakarma http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4833 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:19:07 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4833 Safari for Windows means Open Internet Standards, rather than Microsoft's proprietary standards. Safari will liberate the Internet from Microsoft hegemony!!! Safari for Windows means Open Internet Standards, rather than Microsoft’s proprietary standards. Safari will liberate the Internet from Microsoft hegemony!!!

]]> by: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4832 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:08:01 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4832 [quote comment="4825"]I didn't test it but according to <a href="http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-06-11-n38.html" rel="nofollow">Google Blogoscoped</a> the Win-Safari is still very buggy.[/quote] I installed it on a spare WinXP laptop that was lying around the office. With 512 MB I can attest it was slow. It was actually slower than Firefox. Ricardo said:

I didn’t test it but according to Google Blogoscoped the Win-Safari is still very buggy.

I installed it on a spare WinXP laptop that was lying around the office. With 512 MB I can attest it was slow. It was actually slower than Firefox.

]]> by: Craig Betts http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4831 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:59:25 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4831 I think you just about hit it on the head. The bundled software makes so much sense. We have already seen this pattern with Quicktime being bundled with iTunes. I don't think it is for market share of web stuff though. Apple has been through the wringer several times for being too proprietary (remember when the iPod was Mac only?). They want to sell the iPhone to more than Mac owners and need to make it compatible with Windows. Since I can't run Safari on Linux or Solaris, I will continue to run Firefox. *thumbs nose at Apple* I think you just about hit it on the head. The bundled software makes so much sense. We have already seen this pattern with Quicktime being bundled with iTunes. I don’t think it is for market share of web stuff though. Apple has been through the wringer several times for being too proprietary (remember when the iPod was Mac only?). They want to sell the iPhone to more than Mac owners and need to make it compatible with Windows.

Since I can’t run Safari on Linux or Solaris, I will continue to run Firefox.

*thumbs nose at Apple*

]]> by: Ricardo http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4825 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:52:48 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/18/how-will-apple-use-win-safari-to-improve-the-web/#comment-4825 I didn't test it but according to <a href="http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-06-11-n38.html" rel="nofollow">Google Blogoscoped</a> the Win-Safari is still very buggy. I didn’t test it but according to Google Blogoscoped the Win-Safari is still very buggy.

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