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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/26/windows-within-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-4998</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man. I wouldn&#039;t want to do that daily. I had a similar situation once though. 

At a remote site only the server could be accessed from the outside via VPN. So to get to other boxes on that network we had to:

1. vpn to the server
2. rdesktop to the server
3. from the server, rdesktop to the workstation

It was laggy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4998"><p>Oh man. I wouldn&#8217;t want to do that daily. I had a similar situation once though. </p>
<p>At a remote site only the server could be accessed from the outside via VPN. So to get to other boxes on that network we had to:</p>
<p>1. vpn to the server<br />
2. rdesktop to the server<br />
3. from the server, rdesktop to the workstation</p>
<p>It was laggy.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/26/windows-within-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-4992</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picture this. 

Start up an Intel based Mac. 
Open up Windows XP Pro on the Mac
Remote Desktop to my Front side server 
Remote Desktop from my Front side server to my Web Server 
Remote Desktop from my Front side server to my DB Server 
Remote Desktop from my Web server to the same DB server only to see the programs i opened up on the other Remote Desktop. 

This is what happens most every day (although i try to use a PC when i can) 

All our PRODUCTION servers are only accessible via remote.  and because of security only one can be remoted into from &quot;outside&quot; the env they are in.  All other um..6 boxes must be remoted into from the Front side or another box on the same net. 

and oh ya, you cant remote to them without a VPN connection first. 

phew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4992"><p>Picture this. </p>
<p>Start up an Intel based Mac.<br />
Open up Windows XP Pro on the Mac<br />
Remote Desktop to my Front side server<br />
Remote Desktop from my Front side server to my Web Server<br />
Remote Desktop from my Front side server to my DB Server<br />
Remote Desktop from my Web server to the same DB server only to see the programs i opened up on the other Remote Desktop. </p>
<p>This is what happens most every day (although i try to use a PC when i can) </p>
<p>All our PRODUCTION servers are only accessible via remote.  and because of security only one can be remoted into from &#8220;outside&#8221; the env they are in.  All other um..6 boxes must be remoted into from the Front side or another box on the same net. </p>
<p>and oh ya, you cant remote to them without a VPN connection first. </p>
<p>phew.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/26/windows-within-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-4981</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;4980&quot;]I&#039;ve used &lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.logmein.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Logmein&lt;/a&gt; to remote control my other computer, then inside the logmein window opened up logmein and remote controlled the first computer.[/quote]

Hehe! The best way set up a VNC server, and then on the same machine use a VNC client and connect to &lt;em&gt;localhost&lt;/em&gt;. Yay for recursion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4981"><p>[quote comment="4980"]I&#8217;ve used <a href="https://secure.logmein.com/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Logmein</a> to remote control my other computer, then inside the logmein window opened up logmein and remote controlled the first computer.[/quote]</p>
<p>Hehe! The best way set up a VNC server, and then on the same machine use a VNC client and connect to <em>localhost</em>. Yay for recursion!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt`</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/26/windows-within-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt`</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used &lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.logmein.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Logmein&lt;/a&gt; to remote control my other computer, then inside the logmein window opened up logmein and remote controlled the first computer.

It used to prevent you from doing that.. maybe it won&#039;t work any more if it was a temporary bug.. or maybe I actually went and used the remote controlled computer in the normal way..

Either way it caused the kind of effect that you get from standing between 2 mirrors

mmm, laggy  :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4980"><p>I&#8217;ve used <a href="https://secure.logmein.com/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Logmein</a> to remote control my other computer, then inside the logmein window opened up logmein and remote controlled the first computer.</p>
<p>It used to prevent you from doing that.. maybe it won&#8217;t work any more if it was a temporary bug.. or maybe I actually went and used the remote controlled computer in the normal way..</p>
<p>Either way it caused the kind of effect that you get from standing between 2 mirrors</p>
<p>mmm, laggy  <img src='http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig Betts</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/06/26/windows-within-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-4954</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Betts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote post=&quot;1691&quot;]Oh! Your’s is better because it is recursive. Now you could log into the Sun again and repeat the process[/quote]

Not only that, but I used three totally different operating systems and protocols!

I can be too clever for my own good some days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4954"><p>[quote post="1691"]Oh! Your’s is better because it is recursive. Now you could log into the Sun again and repeat the process[/quote]</p>
<p>Not only that, but I used three totally different operating systems and protocols!</p>
<p>I can be too clever for my own good some days.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Your&#039;s is better because it is recursive. Now you could log into the Sun again and repeat the process. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4953"><p>Oh! Your&#8217;s is better because it is recursive. Now you could log into the Sun again and repeat the process. <img src='http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Craig Betts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Betts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a screenshot that was similar:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bettssoftware.com/images/desktop.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINKY&lt;/a&gt;

*) I am logged into my Solaris system
*) I ran rdesktop to connect to my windows system remotely
*) Inside of windows, I ran VNC to connect to my Mac
*) On my Mac I ran an X server
*) Inside the X server, I ran Xnest and connected back to my Solaris system

Talk about ways to induce lag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_4950"><p>I did a screenshot that was similar:<br />
<a href="http://www.bettssoftware.com/images/desktop.jpg" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">LINKY</a></p>
<p>*) I am logged into my Solaris system<br />
*) I ran rdesktop to connect to my windows system remotely<br />
*) Inside of windows, I ran VNC to connect to my Mac<br />
*) On my Mac I ran an X server<br />
*) Inside the X server, I ran Xnest and connected back to my Solaris system</p>
<p>Talk about ways to induce lag!</p>
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