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	<title>Comments on: Configure Linux Startup Applications with sysv-rc-conf</title>
	<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: vixtor</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-8817</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-8817</guid>
					<description>great review
It make things easier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great review<br />
It make things easier
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-7372</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-7372</guid>
					<description>Hey Joe! sysv-rc-conf is really a great app! Keep up the good work.

I haven't checked the CLI options but that really looks useful - especially for scripting. Thanks for the tip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe! sysv-rc-conf is really a great app! Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t checked the CLI options but that really looks useful - especially for scripting. Thanks for the tip!
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		<title>by: Joe Oppegaard</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-7370</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-7370</guid>
					<description>I'm the author of sysv-rc-conf, just ran across this posting. Glad you all like it. I thought I'd add to the discussion regarding chkconfig, 

I also had used redhat and liked the chkconfig syntax. So, I built sysv-rc-conf to take the same command line arguments. You can check the man page for more details, but it allows you to modify run levels just like chkconfig without bringing up the TUI. 

Ie. &lt;code&gt;sysv-rc-conf --level 2345 apache off&lt;/code&gt; Check the USING THE CLI section of the man page for a bit more.

Regarding compatibility, I admit I haven't checked in a over a year, but I tested this app on a number of non-debian based distros and it worked, specifically I do remember testing with redhat. The COMPATIBILITY section of the man page gives more info on what to check for to see if your distro is compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the author of sysv-rc-conf, just ran across this posting. Glad you all like it. I thought I&#8217;d add to the discussion regarding chkconfig, </p>
<p>I also had used redhat and liked the chkconfig syntax. So, I built sysv-rc-conf to take the same command line arguments. You can check the man page for more details, but it allows you to modify run levels just like chkconfig without bringing up the TUI. </p>
<p>Ie. <code>sysv-rc-conf --level 2345 apache off</code> Check the USING THE CLI section of the man page for a bit more.</p>
<p>Regarding compatibility, I admit I haven&#8217;t checked in a over a year, but I tested this app on a number of non-debian based distros and it worked, specifically I do remember testing with redhat. The COMPATIBILITY section of the man page gives more info on what to check for to see if your distro is compatible.
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-6399</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-6399</guid>
					<description>That's what I thought. These kinds of things don't port seamlessly between distros. Thanks for the info. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I thought. These kinds of things don&#8217;t port seamlessly between distros. Thanks for the info. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-6398</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-6398</guid>
					<description>Yes, this is a good tool. I have used it before, albeit I am not a big fan of cursed interfaces. I think this tool is only pre-packaged for Debian though (Ubuntu gets it being Debian derivative), so anybody with Red Hat based system or some SuSe or Mandriva (could be considered RH based ;) ). Is a bit out of luck. 
About chkconfig. It is a very Red Hat specific tool and it will NOT work on Ubuntu. The reason for this is that chkconfig relies on startup scripts having a lot of specific and properly formated information in their headers and will not work without them. Debian derivatives have a command line tool called update-rc.d to manipulate sysv startup. It doesn't have listing capability though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is a good tool. I have used it before, albeit I am not a big fan of cursed interfaces. I think this tool is only pre-packaged for Debian though (Ubuntu gets it being Debian derivative), so anybody with Red Hat based system or some SuSe or Mandriva (could be considered RH based <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" />  ). Is a bit out of luck.<br />
About chkconfig. It is a very Red Hat specific tool and it will NOT work on Ubuntu. The reason for this is that chkconfig relies on startup scripts having a lot of specific and properly formated information in their headers and will not work without them. Debian derivatives have a command line tool called update-rc.d to manipulate sysv startup. It doesn&#8217;t have listing capability though.
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		<title>by: Terminally Incoherent &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Installing Fluxbuntu on Compaq Presario 1240</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-6145</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-6145</guid>
					<description>[...] So, Fluxbuntu is working. The base system is running at an acceptable speed. I think both Slax and DSL were performing better. This system just feels slower and more cumbersome. I trimmed it down using sysv-rc-conf and removed all the unnecessary daemons and background processes. This made boot times more tolerable, and made the UI a wee bit more responsive. I&#8217;m not sure if I can tweak it down from here, but suggestions are always appreciated. I guess the rest is just choice of software you use on the machine. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] So, Fluxbuntu is working. The base system is running at an acceptable speed. I think both Slax and DSL were performing better. This system just feels slower and more cumbersome. I trimmed it down using sysv-rc-conf and removed all the unnecessary daemons and background processes. This made boot times more tolerable, and made the UI a wee bit more responsive. I&#8217;m not sure if I can tweak it down from here, but suggestions are always appreciated. I guess the rest is just choice of software you use on the machine. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5982</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5982</guid>
					<description>LOL I can't believe I actually typed that. :oops:

&lt;img src="/img/facepalm.jpeg" width="300"&gt;

This is what happens when I don't get my morning coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL I can&#8217;t believe I actually typed that.  <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" alt="oops" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p><img src="/img/facepalm.jpeg" width="300"></p>
<p>This is what happens when I don&#8217;t get my morning coffee.
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		<title>by: Craig Betts</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5981</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5981</guid>
					<description>"info red"  LOL

Never thought of infrared that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;info red&#8221;  LOL</p>
<p>Never thought of infrared that way.
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5980</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5980</guid>
					<description>Heh. That doesn't stop me though. I b0rk my systems all the time, and I'm usually able to fix it.

It's just I don't want to deal with that at the moment  ie. breaking your system because of tinkering is not an excuse when you are on a strict deadline. ;) So I'd rather use something that works, rather than something that may or may either work, or do some funny stuff I might need to fix.

Btw, I found like 15 services on my laptop that I didn't really need to be running like apache, sendmail, bittorrent tracker, irda modules (I don't use the info red sensor) and etc. It almost cut my boot time in half because all that crap is not starting up every time I power this thing on - so I'm happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. That doesn&#8217;t stop me though. I b0rk my systems all the time, and I&#8217;m usually able to fix it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just I don&#8217;t want to deal with that at the moment  ie. breaking your system because of tinkering is not an excuse when you are on a strict deadline. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" />  So I&#8217;d rather use something that works, rather than something that may or may either work, or do some funny stuff I might need to fix.</p>
<p>Btw, I found like 15 services on my laptop that I didn&#8217;t really need to be running like apache, sendmail, bittorrent tracker, irda modules (I don&#8217;t use the info red sensor) and etc. It almost cut my boot time in half because all that crap is not starting up every time I power this thing on - so I&#8217;m happy.
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		<title>by: Craig Betts</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5979</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/08/29/configure-linux-startup-applications-with-sysv-rc-conf/#comment-5979</guid>
					<description>Then again . . . unless you are a sysadmin doing a lot of tests, you really should not be messing around with rc scripts much to begin with.  If you have a fear of borking-up your system, you probably should not mess with it unless you have a good understanding of what you are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again . . . unless you are a sysadmin doing a lot of tests, you really should not be messing around with rc scripts much to begin with.  If you have a fear of borking-up your system, you probably should not mess with it unless you have a good understanding of what you are doing.
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