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	<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/</link>
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		<title>by: Pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10363</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah my company inserted their confidentiality thing in the bottom of my e-mails, quite the annoyance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah my company inserted their confidentiality thing in the bottom of my e-mails, quite the annoyance!
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10153</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10153</guid>
					<description>@&lt;a href="#comment-10151" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jake&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, perhaps I should do that. :)

The best are the emails with mangled HTML which just cannot be rendered properly in KMail. I don't know which client produces those but I get them every once in a while and they suck. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-10151" rel="nofollow">Jake</a>: Yeah, perhaps I should do that. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>The best are the emails with mangled HTML which just cannot be rendered properly in KMail. I don&#8217;t know which client produces those but I get them every once in a while and they suck. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt="P" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10151</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@&lt;a href="#comment-10149" rel="nofollow"&gt;Luke Maciak&lt;/a&gt;: No, I have it display text mode first, if available, and then HTML mode. You can switch in the description box below the emaill. The rendering works fairly well for HTML emails, or at least for some of the newsletter I still takes.

I love Kontact and K-Mail. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-10149" rel="nofollow">Luke Maciak</a>: No, I have it display text mode first, if available, and then HTML mode. You can switch in the description box below the emaill. The rendering works fairly well for HTML emails, or at least for some of the newsletter I still takes.</p>
<p>I love Kontact and K-Mail. =)
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10149</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10149</guid>
					<description>@&lt;a href="#comment-10147" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jake&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, I keep it disabled on purpose - mainly so that I don't have to see the 8 color signatures. 

Kmail shows me a box on top of the email which says "to view the HTML click here" and then "to display stupid images click here, but I wouldn't bother if I were you".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-10147" rel="nofollow">Jake</a>: Yeah, I keep it disabled on purpose - mainly so that I don&#8217;t have to see the 8 color signatures. </p>
<p>Kmail shows me a box on top of the email which says &#8220;to view the HTML click here&#8221; and then &#8220;to display stupid images click here, but I wouldn&#8217;t bother if I were you&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10147</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10147</guid>
					<description>@&lt;a href="#comment-10146" rel="nofollow"&gt;Luke Maciak&lt;/a&gt;: KMail lets you easily switch to HTML mode for an email. Do you have this disabled? I find this nice, especially for Hotmail emails. Hotmail can't even keep line breaks when it converts to text format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-10146" rel="nofollow">Luke Maciak</a>: KMail lets you easily switch to HTML mode for an email. Do you have this disabled? I find this nice, especially for Hotmail emails. Hotmail can&#8217;t even keep line breaks when it converts to text format.
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10146</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10146</guid>
					<description>@&lt;a href="#comment-10144" rel="nofollow"&gt;Swamy&lt;/a&gt;: Ok, I'll give on the email thing. It's not so bad I guess. 

Company logo though - no! Unprofessional! If you include an image in your sig your email is automatically sent as HTML or worse (shudder) a word attachment. This means it will either look like crap in Mutt/Pine and Kmail or in worse case scenario will force me to:

1. Download the .dat attachment file
2. Extract it using ktnef or similar tool
3. Open your email in Open Office
4. Go back to my email client to reply

Ugh! It's just inconsiderate, and don't say "get a better email client" because this is precisely the attitude of Outlook users which prompted this post.

Also I have yet to see anyone going "Oh no! I can't forward you this email because it has a disclaimer". To dissuade someone from forwarding the email to my enemies, that someone would first have to read the disclaimer. And I can guarantee you that 99.99999% of people stop reading as soon as they hit that "NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY" heading. To me this is basically an End of File indicator. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-10144" rel="nofollow">Swamy</a>: Ok, I&#8217;ll give on the email thing. It&#8217;s not so bad I guess. </p>
<p>Company logo though - no! Unprofessional! If you include an image in your sig your email is automatically sent as HTML or worse (shudder) a word attachment. This means it will either look like crap in Mutt/Pine and Kmail or in worse case scenario will force me to:</p>
<p>1. Download the .dat attachment file<br />
2. Extract it using ktnef or similar tool<br />
3. Open your email in Open Office<br />
4. Go back to my email client to reply</p>
<p>Ugh! It&#8217;s just inconsiderate, and don&#8217;t say &#8220;get a better email client&#8221; because this is precisely the attitude of Outlook users which prompted this post.</p>
<p>Also I have yet to see anyone going &#8220;Oh no! I can&#8217;t forward you this email because it has a disclaimer&#8221;. To dissuade someone from forwarding the email to my enemies, that someone would first have to read the disclaimer. And I can guarantee you that 99.99999% of people stop reading as soon as they hit that &#8220;NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY&#8221; heading. To me this is basically an End of File indicator. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: Swamy</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10144</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-10144</guid>
					<description>I agree with Vacri.  You &lt;strong&gt;should&lt;/strong&gt; include your email address in your signature line, given the issue with email forwarding.  Also many email clients don't display the sender's email address in the email, just the sender's name.  If you're trying to copy the sender's email into another database, like your phone, this can be annoying.

I think quotes should be banned.

A simple company logo is acceptable.

Disclaimers do serve a purpose.  They might dissuade someone from forwarding your email to one of your enemies.  Agree that it has no legal weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Vacri.  You <strong>should</strong> include your email address in your signature line, given the issue with email forwarding.  Also many email clients don&#8217;t display the sender&#8217;s email address in the email, just the sender&#8217;s name.  If you&#8217;re trying to copy the sender&#8217;s email into another database, like your phone, this can be annoying.</p>
<p>I think quotes should be banned.</p>
<p>A simple company logo is acceptable.</p>
<p>Disclaimers do serve a purpose.  They might dissuade someone from forwarding your email to one of your enemies.  Agree that it has no legal weight.
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-6184</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-6184</guid>
					<description>Oh wow...  Imagine how that "call me ASAP" email would look with this 5 page disclaimer. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow&#8230;  Imagine how that &#8220;call me ASAP&#8221; email would look with this 5 page disclaimer. lol
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		<title>by: James Heaver</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-6183</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-6183</guid>
					<description>In the UK it is a legal requirement for Company Registration numebrs to be included in all bussiness emails - for the avoidance of doubt most companies insert it into all emails.


So thats another acceptable piece of information to be included.

The worst legalise signature I've ever seen is the following (the users had no control over this, and I have not touched the formatting except to add dots on blank lines so they are preserved in the comment)

&lt;blockquote&gt;
This email originates from AXA Services Limited (reg. no. 446043) which is a service company for AXA UK plc (reg. no. 2937724) and the following companies within the AXA UK plc Group:
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AXA Insurance Plc (reg. no. 932111)
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AXA Insurance UK Plc (reg. no. 78950)
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AXA General Insurance Limited (reg. no. 141885)
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All of the above mentioned companies are registered in England and have their registered office at 5 Old Broad Street, London EC2N 1AD, England.
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AXA Insurance UK plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority.
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This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this in error, you should not disseminate or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system.
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Please also note that any opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group.
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Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or incomplete as a result of the transmission process. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of email transmission.
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Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
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This went out on every email sent by that company.
Thankfully they've now improved it by removing all the empty lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK it is a legal requirement for Company Registration numebrs to be included in all bussiness emails - for the avoidance of doubt most companies insert it into all emails.</p>
<p>So thats another acceptable piece of information to be included.</p>
<p>The worst legalise signature I&#8217;ve ever seen is the following (the users had no control over this, and I have not touched the formatting except to add dots on blank lines so they are preserved in the comment)</p>
<blockquote><p>
This email originates from AXA Services Limited (reg. no. 446043) which is a service company for AXA UK plc (reg. no. 2937724) and the following companies within the AXA UK plc Group:<br />
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AXA Insurance Plc (reg. no. 932111)<br />
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AXA Insurance UK Plc (reg. no. 78950)<br />
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AXA General Insurance Limited (reg. no. 141885)<br />
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All of the above mentioned companies are registered in England and have their registered office at 5 Old Broad Street, London EC2N 1AD, England.<br />
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AXA Insurance UK plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority.<br />
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This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this in error, you should not disseminate or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system.<br />
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Please also note that any opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group.<br />
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Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or incomplete as a result of the transmission process. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of email transmission.<br />
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Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
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<p>This went out on every email sent by that company.<br />
Thankfully they&#8217;ve now improved it by removing all the empty lines.
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/09/03/email-signatures/#comment-6156</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>See, the email disclaimers are killing trees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, the email disclaimers are killing trees!
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