Comments on: Apostrophe in the Email Address? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/ Utterly random, incoherent and disjointed rants and ramblings... Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:12:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Jason http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-10923 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:08:30 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-10923 I just came across an apostrophe based email address - my first after about 13 or 14 years and your piece above was helpful. On balance it seems like most admins disallow apostrophes this as it is far from universal in application and what most people need is an email address that will work on the maximum number of systems. I just came across an apostrophe based email address - my first after about 13 or 14 years and your piece above was helpful.

On balance it seems like most admins disallow apostrophes this as it is far from universal in application and what most people need is an email address that will work on the maximum number of systems.

]]> by: MERLiiN http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8663 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:37:18 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8663 Yes, the 8-bit foreign language domains compliance is very handy to have when your end users lack the keyboard space for "squiggles". I'm sure your RFC compliant MTA will be very handy when your boss gives you THAT 5am call because he cannot type out the email address for Mr.Miyagi and he needs to send that sucker right NOW! I am sure you can do the the correct x-- translation in your sleep. Yes, the 8-bit foreign language domains compliance is very handy to have when your end users lack the keyboard space for “squiggles”. I’m sure your RFC compliant MTA will be very handy when your boss gives you THAT 5am call because he cannot type out the email address for Mr.Miyagi and he needs to send that sucker right NOW! I am sure you can do the the correct x– translation in your sleep.

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8586 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:26:33 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8586 <strong>@Airmail</strong> - I'm not knocking you for supporting the RFC. I'm thrilled your mail system allows for this. I completely agree that everyone should shape up and start implementing email systems that are compliant with the RFC. But we don't live in a perfect world, and judging from the examples above having apostrophe in the email address does create issues at times. :) I'm not happy about it either. @Airmail - I’m not knocking you for supporting the RFC. I’m thrilled your mail system allows for this. I completely agree that everyone should shape up and start implementing email systems that are compliant with the RFC.

But we don’t live in a perfect world, and judging from the examples above having apostrophe in the email address does create issues at times. ) I’m not happy about it either.

]]> by: Airmail http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8584 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:41:44 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8584 In a perfect world the programmers of mail systems would all follow the syntax and rules in the RFCs and all email systems would interoperate. As you can see it is not a perfect world so don't knock those of us who support systems that are RFC compliant. Just wait till the 8-bit foreign language domains are in use. Then you will see who is compliant and who is not. In a perfect world the programmers of mail systems would all follow the syntax and rules in the RFCs and all email systems would interoperate. As you can see it is not a perfect world so don’t knock those of us who support systems that are RFC compliant.

Just wait till the 8-bit foreign language domains are in use. Then you will see who is compliant and who is not.

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8581 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:54:01 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8581 <strong>@Miloš</strong> - the subdomain doesn't bother me that much - they just make the email longer and more unwieldy. However sometimes there are good reasons for them. For example rage, multinational companies use country specific sub domains to differentiate national branches (ie. @us.companyname.com, @jp.companyname.com and etc..). In MSU's case they just seem unnecessary. Glad to hear they will be going away <strong>@vacri</strong> - fixd ;) @Miloš - the subdomain doesn’t bother me that much - they just make the email longer and more unwieldy. However sometimes there are good reasons for them. For example rage, multinational companies use country specific sub domains to differentiate national branches (ie. @us.companyname.com, @jp.companyname.com and etc..).

In MSU’s case they just seem unnecessary. Glad to hear they will be going away

@vacri - fixd )

]]> by: Shannon http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8578 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:07:45 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8578 Agreed-but then again if I had Apostrophe in my name it would bother me that I have to drop it for the email address. I would probably prefer to make everyone's life easier and drop it but still it seems unfair. Agreed-but then again if I had Apostrophe in my name it would bother me that I have to drop it for the email address. I would probably prefer to make everyone’s life easier and drop it but still it seems unfair.

]]> by: vacri http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8574 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:36:41 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8574 <blockquote cite="Luke">after all <b>apostrophe’s</b> are allowed</blockquote> gah! If only I could <a href="http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif" rel="nofollow">link images</a> here. I wouldn't say anything normally, but the subject of the article is apostrophes, after all... For me, I believe in manifesto of the Deny Any And All Punctuation That Is Not A Dot Or Horizontal And Thin In Email Addresses Party (the DAaAPTiNaDoHaTiEA Party), who basically agree with Fr3d up there. No way am I ever allowing an email address like naïf@vacri.mil as it just causes problems.

after all apostrophe’s are allowed

gah!

If only I could link images here. I wouldn’t say anything normally, but the subject of the article is apostrophes, after all…

For me, I believe in manifesto of the Deny Any And All Punctuation That Is Not A Dot Or Horizontal And Thin In Email Addresses Party (the DAaAPTiNaDoHaTiEA Party), who basically agree with Fr3d up there. No way am I ever allowing an email address like naïf@vacri.mil as it just causes problems.

]]> by: Miloš http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8570 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:53:11 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8570 At MSU that's handled properly, but we still have a subdomain in the e-mail address (mail.domain.edu)...but there are good news, before this semester is over that should go as well so that we can finally have our lastnamefirstnitial @domain.edu :) At MSU that’s handled properly, but we still have a subdomain in the e-mail address (mail.domain.edu)…but there are good news, before this semester is over that should go as well so that we can finally have our lastnamefirstnitial @domain.edu )

]]> by: matthias http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8566 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:03:13 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8566 As a Sysadmin I always try to keep things simple. This means: only a-z, 0-9, "-", "_" and "." are allowed characters in email adresses. This helps me to not run in any problems with uncommon filenames of the mailboxes, problems with scripts that are using email adresses or problems with different locales and charsets on different operating systems. As a Sysadmin I always try to keep things simple. This means: only a-z, 0-9, “-”, “_” and “.” are allowed characters in email adresses.
This helps me to not run in any problems with uncommon filenames of the mailboxes, problems with scripts that are using email adresses or problems with different locales and charsets on different operating systems.

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8564 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:42:16 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/03/20/apostrophe-in-the-email-address/#comment-8564 Oh wow - see, two other real world examples of where this has been a problem. It's more widespread tan I thought. <strong>@Fred</strong> - yes, apostrophe is legal. So is %, $, #, +, \ and etc.. Weird, but true. See <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.2.4" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Oh wow - see, two other real world examples of where this has been a problem. It’s more widespread tan I thought.

@Fred - yes, apostrophe is legal. So is %, $, #, +, \ and etc.. Weird, but true. See here.

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