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	<title>Comments on: What do you use for Bug/Issue Tracking?</title>
	<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/</link>
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8690</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8690</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Adam&lt;/strong&gt; - I think that's the same talk as Corey posted few comments above. Thanks anyway, it is an interesting vid. I love the cvs bashing lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Adam</strong> - I think that&#8217;s the same talk as Corey posted few comments above. Thanks anyway, it is an interesting vid. I love the cvs bashing lol
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		<title>by: Adam Kahtava</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8689</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8689</guid>
					<description>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8" rel="nofollow"&gt;An interesting talk on Soure Control by Linus Torvalds&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8" rel="nofollow">An interesting talk on Soure Control by Linus Torvalds</a>
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		<title>by: ths</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8660</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8660</guid>
					<description>At work I have to use Telelogic's Synergy (recently been bought by IBM). I hope it will be discontinued ;). It has good workflow ideas but terrible GUI and terrible CLI which tempts you to make big handling mistakes which an admin only can correct (not the user himself).
It has one very nice idea: you can not simply check out things, you need to create a "task" first with a description and a project tag, and then things you check-out stick to that task, and in the end you check-in the task. This makes for a really nice workflow in connection with a bug-tracker; i.e. you create a task to fix bug 75308, and you immediately see from the task contents what were the files you needed to touch.
As I said: nice workflow, but terrible implementation.

At home I use svn, and for my workgroup I had a brief look at Rational (just another IBM product ...) but had not enough time to finish this evaluation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At work I have to use Telelogic&#8217;s Synergy (recently been bought by IBM). I hope it will be discontinued <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" /> . It has good workflow ideas but terrible GUI and terrible CLI which tempts you to make big handling mistakes which an admin only can correct (not the user himself).<br />
It has one very nice idea: you can not simply check out things, you need to create a &#8220;task&#8221; first with a description and a project tag, and then things you check-out stick to that task, and in the end you check-in the task. This makes for a really nice workflow in connection with a bug-tracker; i.e. you create a task to fix bug 75308, and you immediately see from the task contents what were the files you needed to touch.<br />
As I said: nice workflow, but terrible implementation.</p>
<p>At home I use svn, and for my workgroup I had a brief look at Rational (just another IBM product &#8230;) but had not enough time to finish this evaluation.
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		<title>by: hrvoje</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8659</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8659</guid>
					<description>For version control: svn, but soon switching for git,
bug tracking: trac,
and for development: eclipse with vim plugin ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For version control: svn, but soon switching for git,<br />
bug tracking: trac,<br />
and for development: eclipse with vim plugin <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: Corey Trager</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8658</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8658</guid>
					<description>FogBugz on Linux is PHP, so maybe don't rule it out.

Wasabi is what the FogBugz folks use internally so that they can have the same codebase for ASP (for Windows) and PHP.    They write it in Wasabi, run it through the "compiler", and PHP comes out the other end for the Linux version, ASP for their Windows version.   They ship the PHP, not the Wasabi.

I have developed a free open source &lt;a href="http://ifdefined.com/bugtrackernet.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;bug tracking&lt;/a&gt; app which maybe you would NOT like, BugTracker.NET,  because it only runs on Windows, but FogBugz was my biggest inspiration, so it might be worth a look for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FogBugz on Linux is PHP, so maybe don&#8217;t rule it out.</p>
<p>Wasabi is what the FogBugz folks use internally so that they can have the same codebase for ASP (for Windows) and PHP.    They write it in Wasabi, run it through the &#8220;compiler&#8221;, and PHP comes out the other end for the Linux version, ASP for their Windows version.   They ship the PHP, not the Wasabi.</p>
<p>I have developed a free open source <a href="http://ifdefined.com/bugtrackernet.html" rel="nofollow">bug tracking</a> app which maybe you would NOT like, BugTracker.NET,  because it only runs on Windows, but FogBugz was my biggest inspiration, so it might be worth a look for you.
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8657</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8657</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Nathan&lt;/strong&gt; - well, I admit that I was never involved in projects of the size that would actually require more than svn. But yeah, I can see how it might be a problem as things scale.

&lt;strong&gt;@Corey&lt;/strong&gt; - thanks for the video link. The cvs/svn bashing made me LOL.

I guess I need to look into git now. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Nathan</strong> - well, I admit that I was never involved in projects of the size that would actually require more than svn. But yeah, I can see how it might be a problem as things scale.</p>
<p><strong>@Corey</strong> - thanks for the video link. The cvs/svn bashing made me LOL.</p>
<p>I guess I need to look into git now. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt="P" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8656</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8656</guid>
					<description>Wow, trac is clearly the favorite here. I will need to check it out.

Bugzilla was written in Perl. FrogBugz was written in Wasabi (whatever the fuck that is). Trac is written in Python. I'm going with Python on this one. 

Also, I'm not tracking bugs or doing source control with anything that has Microsoft in the name. I'm not paying out of my ass if I can have a free solution that is better. :)

&lt;strong&gt;@Ian&lt;/strong&gt; - rub it in, why don't ya? Lazy programmers use DH. One of those days I will get of my ass and move. You don't even want to know when was the last time I upgraded my wordpres for precisely the same reason (laziness).


&lt;strong&gt;@Matt&lt;/strong&gt; - actually, you probably should use a wild card there: "* is for people who are intimidated by emacs" :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, trac is clearly the favorite here. I will need to check it out.</p>
<p>Bugzilla was written in Perl. FrogBugz was written in Wasabi (whatever the fuck that is). Trac is written in Python. I&#8217;m going with Python on this one. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not tracking bugs or doing source control with anything that has Microsoft in the name. I&#8217;m not paying out of my ass if I can have a free solution that is better. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=")" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p><strong>@Ian</strong> - rub it in, why don&#8217;t ya? Lazy programmers use DH. One of those days I will get of my ass and move. You don&#8217;t even want to know when was the last time I upgraded my wordpres for precisely the same reason (laziness).</p>
<p><strong>@Matt</strong> - actually, you probably should use a wild card there: &#8220;* is for people who are intimidated by emacs&#8221; <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt="P" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: Corey Trager</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8655</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8655</guid>
					<description>If there isn't enough here to scratch your itch, I've put together a page of links to &lt;a href="http://ifdefined.com/blog/post/2007/10/Links-to-other-comparisons-of-issue-trackers.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt; bug tracking&lt;/a&gt; discussions just like this one:
http://ifdefined.com/blog/post/2007/10/Links-to-other-comparisons-of-issue-trackers.aspx

Regarding source control, before you limit the list to cvs and svn, you might want to hear what Linus Torvalds has to say about "git":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there isn&#8217;t enough here to scratch your itch, I&#8217;ve put together a page of links to <a href="http://ifdefined.com/blog/post/2007/10/Links-to-other-comparisons-of-issue-trackers.aspx" rel="nofollow"> bug tracking</a> discussions just like this one:<br />
<a href="http://ifdefined.com/blog/post/2007/10/Links-to-other-comparisons-of-issue-trackers.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://ifdefined.com/blog/post/2007/10/Links-to-other-comparisons-of-i ssue-trackers.aspx</a></p>
<p>Regarding source control, before you limit the list to cvs and svn, you might want to hear what Linus Torvalds has to say about &#8220;git&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8</a>
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		<title>by: Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8654</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8654</guid>
					<description>Use Borland StarTeam!

*shamelessly promotes own product*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use Borland StarTeam!</p>
<p>*shamelessly promotes own product*
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		<title>by: Matt Doar</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8653</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/01/what-do-you-use-for-bugissue-tracking/#comment-8653</guid>
					<description>On average, JIRA does the bug tracking job. Adam made me laugh. And vi is for people who are intimidated by emacs ;-)

~Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On average, JIRA does the bug tracking job. Adam made me laugh. And vi is for people who are intimidated by emacs <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt="-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>~Matt
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