Comments on: Drag and Drop Outlook Emails onto .NET Application http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/ Utterly random, incoherent and disjointed rants and ramblings... Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:33:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Aramsham http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9033 Tue, 13 May 2008 07:30:47 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9033 Like you said...strange ^^ I made both d&d, but the d&d from outlook into a directory is the only case where the binary is different. When I d&d in my applet, I take it as a COM mailItem, and then I invoke a SaveAs on it, just like if you make a File>SaveAs>*.msg from outlook... Bah this afternoon I'll have a meeting with the other team to see if they can update their pattern to catch that type of binary... Like you said…strange ^^

I made both d&d, but the d&d from outlook into a directory is the only case where the binary is different. When I d&d in my applet, I take it as a COM mailItem, and then I invoke a SaveAs on it, just like if you make a File>SaveAs>*.msg from outlook…

Bah this afternoon I’ll have a meeting with the other team to see if they can update their pattern to catch that type of binary…

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9010 Fri, 09 May 2008 15:51:31 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9010 Oh wow... Weird. I really do not know why would there be a difference. Now when you are saying Drag & Drop do you mean drag an email from Outlook into a directory, or drag it into Java app that then saves it into a directory? If it's the later, perhaps it has something to do with the way you are writing the file to disk. If it's the former, then that's just bizarre. Oh wow… Weird. I really do not know why would there be a difference.

Now when you are saying Drag & Drop do you mean drag an email from Outlook into a directory, or drag it into Java app that then saves it into a directory? If it’s the later, perhaps it has something to do with the way you are writing the file to disk. If it’s the former, then that’s just bizarre.

]]> by: Aramsham http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9006 Fri, 09 May 2008 14:26:00 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9006 Mmmmh, unfortunately even if I send the mailItem, there's no "getByte" method to get the .msg as a binary file, cos it's stored in a blob in DB2/400... I don't know if there's huge difference, all I can see in a Hexa Editor (like UltraEdit) is that the contain is not exactly the same...you can try, when you d&d from outlook to a directory, and when you do a File >>> Save As >>> *.msg, there's at least 1Kb difference! The d&d file is about 1Kb more than the SaveAs version! Really I don't understand... Mmmmh, unfortunately even if I send the mailItem, there’s no “getByte” method to get the .msg as a binary file, cos it’s stored in a blob in DB2/400…

I don’t know if there’s huge difference, all I can see in a Hexa Editor (like UltraEdit) is that the contain is not exactly the same…you can try, when you d&d from outlook to a directory, and when you do a File >>> Save As >>> *.msg, there’s at least 1Kb difference! The d&d file is about 1Kb more than the SaveAs version! Really I don’t understand…

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9005 Fri, 09 May 2008 13:39:20 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9005 Hmm.... Not sure but it is an interesting issue. This may be crazy talk, but could you possibly serialize the mailItem object and then send that over to the other app? It would circumvent the whole mimetype problem. Or not. I don't know... How are the binaries different? Different than what? What are we comparing them to? Hmm…. Not sure but it is an interesting issue. This may be crazy talk, but could you possibly serialize the mailItem object and then send that over to the other app? It would circumvent the whole mimetype problem. Or not. I don’t know…

How are the binaries different? Different than what? What are we comparing them to?

]]> by: Aramsham http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9001 Fri, 09 May 2008 08:19:27 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-9001 Hi, I actually have done the same job in a java applet but encounterd a prob : when you d&d your mail from outlook in a directory, you get a subject.msg, but the binary is not the same when I get the mail from outlook via a java/COM bridge and then invoke a SaveAs on the mailItem. I send the mail as a binary stream to another application (developped by another team) and they don't use the file extension but are guessing the doctype with the binary. But as the binaries are not the same, apparently they're not able to guess that the COM.SaveAs is a .msg file :( And they cannot use the extension I send them by put request because of the DB (maybe later)... Do anybody has an idea why? And if so, any solutions? Hi, I actually have done the same job in a java applet but encounterd a prob : when you d&d your mail from outlook in a directory, you get a subject.msg, but the binary is not the same when I get the mail from outlook via a java/COM bridge and then invoke a SaveAs on the mailItem.

I send the mail as a binary stream to another application (developped by another team) and they don’t use the file extension but are guessing the doctype with the binary. But as the binaries are not the same, apparently they’re not able to guess that the COM.SaveAs is a .msg file (
And they cannot use the extension I send them by put request because of the DB (maybe later)…

Do anybody has an idea why? And if so, any solutions?

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8953 Sun, 04 May 2008 00:55:58 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8953 That's what I thought too but I can't find any info on disabling particular dialog. :( Also, I think it's actually easier to just connect to a SMTP server directly and send an email that way rather than to proxy through Outlook due to these infernal "security" features. That’s what I thought too but I can’t find any info on disabling particular dialog. (

Also, I think it’s actually easier to just connect to a SMTP server directly and send an email that way rather than to proxy through Outlook due to these infernal “security” features.

]]> by: Mirko http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8951 Sat, 03 May 2008 20:37:33 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8951 I used WebDAV to send email through exchange server in order to bypass the dreaded "do you want to send this message" 5 sec wait message dialog. I later learned that you can control outook's "security" ;) features via policy editor - there might be a setting for what You need. I used WebDAV to send email through exchange server in order to bypass the dreaded “do you want to send this message” 5 sec wait message dialog. I later learned that you can control outook’s “security” ) features via policy editor - there might be a setting for what You need.

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8943 Fri, 02 May 2008 19:29:52 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8943 Yeah, I saw that. There is also <a href="http://www.contextmagic.com/express-clickyes/" rel="nofollow">this thing</a>. I was hoping for a more elegant solution that wouldn't require the user to run an additional POS app. But it seems that this is really the easiest way. :( Yeah, I saw that. There is also this thing. I was hoping for a more elegant solution that wouldn’t require the user to run an additional POS app. But it seems that this is really the easiest way. (

]]> by: freelancer http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8940 Fri, 02 May 2008 16:24:19 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/04/30/drag-and-drop-outlook-emails-onto-net-application/#comment-8940 How about this? <a href="http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/security/" rel="nofollow">Advanced Security for Outlook</a> How about this? Advanced Security for Outlook

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