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	<title>Comments on: Online Celebrity status and Social Engineering: Ze Frank Steals Your Facebook</title>
	<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9776</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah the IT thing means that I may have admin passwords the computers of friends and family.  Usually I ask them to make one up, or make up something myself, write it on a piece of paper and ask them to put it somewhere safe for future reference. If the password is sufficiently complex there is no way for me to remember it. I tell those who are not completely computer illiterate to simply change the passwords after I'm done with the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the IT thing means that I may have admin passwords the computers of friends and family.  Usually I ask them to make one up, or make up something myself, write it on a piece of paper and ask them to put it somewhere safe for future reference. If the password is sufficiently complex there is no way for me to remember it. I tell those who are not completely computer illiterate to simply change the passwords after I&#8217;m done with the machine.
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		<title>by: Hector</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9771</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>At home wife and me have separate accounts on the computer we share.

Sometimes I do have administrator access to wife laptop though, or to my parents computer when we go to their place, but that's more IT support than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At home wife and me have separate accounts on the computer we share.</p>
<p>Sometimes I do have administrator access to wife laptop though, or to my parents computer when we go to their place, but that&#8217;s more IT support than anything else.
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		<title>by: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9767</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ahhhh, you said a mouthful my friend. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;To me that sort of thing implies an alarming lack of trust, and excessive jealousy in the relationship. I personally believe that it is much healthier to simply respect each other’s privacy and have trust in the other person. Healthier, and more secure&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is precisely this and nothing more. Trust me on this one, I'm on the receiving end it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh, you said a mouthful my friend. </p>
<blockquote><p>To me that sort of thing implies an alarming lack of trust, and excessive jealousy in the relationship. I personally believe that it is much healthier to simply respect each other’s privacy and have trust in the other person. Healthier, and more secure</p>
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<p>It is precisely this and nothing more. Trust me on this one, I&#8217;m on the receiving end it&#8230;
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		<title>by: Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9763</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[quote post="2599"]I only share my password with you, Luke. Remember it’s “h4rd2cr4ck” and don’t share with anyone who doesn’t at least know my first name.[/quote]

Wait, I thought &lt;a href="http://bash.org/?244321" rel="nofollow"&gt;your password was hunter2&lt;/a&gt;...

[quote post="2599"]Only my wife has my passwords, and she never uses them. I guess truecrypt has my passwords too, but you’d need to know the secret file &#038; password to get them. [/quote]

Ah, see - I don't like this idea of exchanging passwords with a spouse. I mean, certain sharing passwords for certain stuff might be ok, but I believe that personal email, social stuff and your personal laptop/desktop machine should be off limits.

But yeah, I agree - the social network thing may burn you if you're not careful. Then again, not having a rich social life and/or friends who insist on taking billion drunken pictures every time you go out helps too. :P</description>
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I only share my password with you, Luke. Remember it’s “h4rd2cr4ck” and don’t share with anyone who doesn’t at least know my first name.</p>
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<p>Wait, I thought <a href="http://bash.org/?244321" rel="nofollow">your password was hunter2</a>&#8230;</p>
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Only my wife has my passwords, and she never uses them. I guess truecrypt has my passwords too, but you’d need to know the secret file &#038; password to get them. </p>
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<p>Ah, see - I don&#8217;t like this idea of exchanging passwords with a spouse. I mean, certain sharing passwords for certain stuff might be ok, but I believe that personal email, social stuff and your personal laptop/desktop machine should be off limits.</p>
<p>But yeah, I agree - the social network thing may burn you if you&#8217;re not careful. Then again, not having a rich social life and/or friends who insist on taking billion drunken pictures every time you go out helps too. <img src="http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif" alt="P" class="wp-smiley" />
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		<title>by: jambarama</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9762</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>IMO myspace, facebook, all that stuff is a privacy plague.  I don't take part in any social networking for that reason - even if you're careful about what you post on your profile, your "friends" posting pictures of you is just as bad when the pictures are linked to you.  I've seen that stuff get dragged into court, bar reviews, and job interviews and it isn't pretty. 

Only my wife has my passwords, and she never uses them.  I guess truecrypt has my passwords too, but you'd need to know the secret file &#38; password to get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO myspace, facebook, all that stuff is a privacy plague.  I don&#8217;t take part in any social networking for that reason - even if you&#8217;re careful about what you post on your profile, your &#8220;friends&#8221; posting pictures of you is just as bad when the pictures are linked to you.  I&#8217;ve seen that stuff get dragged into court, bar reviews, and job interviews and it isn&#8217;t pretty. </p>
<p>Only my wife has my passwords, and she never uses them.  I guess truecrypt has my passwords too, but you&#8217;d need to know the secret file &amp; password to get them.
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		<title>by: freelancer</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9759</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would never ever give anyone any of my passwords! Also, I always lock my computer at home, and if someone needs to use it I set up a guest account for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never ever give anyone any of my passwords! Also, I always lock my computer at home, and if someone needs to use it I set up a guest account for them.
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		<title>by: Ian Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9756</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9756</guid>
					<description>I only share my password with you, Luke.  Remember it's "h4rd2cr4ck" and don't share with anyone who doesn't at least know my first name.

The exact thing that Starhawk described was noticed today (a developer had FF remember his password on another person's account).  I didn't realize that you could have it actually show what the password is (I never use any browser's "remember my password" feature).

There are people working at the university here who share their passwords so that someone can check their email and log into that account to use various systems.  I guess setting proper user permissions is too much to ask...

I don't even like to let other people drive my car, let alone "drive" my Facebook account!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only share my password with you, Luke.  Remember it&#8217;s &#8220;h4rd2cr4ck&#8221; and don&#8217;t share with anyone who doesn&#8217;t at least know my first name.</p>
<p>The exact thing that Starhawk described was noticed today (a developer had FF remember his password on another person&#8217;s account).  I didn&#8217;t realize that you could have it actually show what the password is (I never use any browser&#8217;s &#8220;remember my password&#8221; feature).</p>
<p>There are people working at the university here who share their passwords so that someone can check their email and log into that account to use various systems.  I guess setting proper user permissions is too much to ask&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even like to let other people drive my car, let alone &#8220;drive&#8221; my Facebook account!
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		<title>by: Starhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/07/31/online-celebrity-status-and-social-engineering-ze-frank-steals-your-facebook/#comment-9753</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[quote]Do you share passwords with anyone?[/quote]

ah No way in hell.

On a related issue I sometimes let people use my computer who come by and want to check their e-mail myspace and so on or otherwise use my computer for some reason. I have a guest account in both windows and buntu I created to keep em outta my crap when they do so, set up with limited admin rights so they can't damage my computer doing something dumb. You would be surprised how many let Firefox remember the password for these accounts. Occasionally I sign into this guest account and clear out all those passwords. people sometimes have no clue.</description>
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Do you share passwords with anyone?</p>
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<p>ah No way in hell.</p>
<p>On a related issue I sometimes let people use my computer who come by and want to check their e-mail myspace and so on or otherwise use my computer for some reason. I have a guest account in both windows and buntu I created to keep em outta my crap when they do so, set up with limited admin rights so they can&#8217;t damage my computer doing something dumb. You would be surprised how many let Firefox remember the password for these accounts. Occasionally I sign into this guest account and clear out all those passwords. people sometimes have no clue.
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