Comments on: Live Free or Die Stupid (aka Die Hard 4) http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/ Utterly random, incoherent and disjointed rants and ramblings... Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:48:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-11203 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:06:12 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-11203 [quote post="2652"]I could pick apart your bad writing too just for fun. How easy would that be? [/quote] It would be very easy. It would also be your prerogative to do so, and shame on me for publishing the content without proofreading and corrections. In fact, people do frequently do this, and while I call them grammar Nazi's in jest, I do take their corrections seriously as constructive criticism. Similarly, Die Hard 4 is a product made for public consumption. I paid to see it, so I am entitled to my opinion, just like you are entitled to yours about my atrocious grammar and spelling. I'm glad you liked it. Good for you! That means you probably belong to the target demographic they were aiming for. Quite obviously I am not part of that demographic. Personally I thought that Willis' character was neutered and tamed down to an almost intolerable level compared with the other installments in the series. He didn't even say his catchphrase in this one. He was far from kicking butt. But again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I could pick apart your bad writing too just for fun. How easy would that be?

It would be very easy. It would also be your prerogative to do so, and shame on me for publishing the content without proofreading and corrections. In fact, people do frequently do this, and while I call them grammar Nazi’s in jest, I do take their corrections seriously as constructive criticism.

Similarly, Die Hard 4 is a product made for public consumption. I paid to see it, so I am entitled to my opinion, just like you are entitled to yours about my atrocious grammar and spelling.

I’m glad you liked it. Good for you! That means you probably belong to the target demographic they were aiming for. Quite obviously I am not part of that demographic.

Personally I thought that Willis’ character was neutered and tamed down to an almost intolerable level compared with the other installments in the series. He didn’t even say his catchphrase in this one. He was far from kicking butt. But again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

]]> by: Anjinsan http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-11201 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:48:56 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-11201 This movie was fun and you sucked all the fun out of it. Willis kicked butt. So what if it got absurd, that's what action movies are for. I agree the jet scene was stupid (there isnt even an F35), but I could pick apart your bad writing too just for fun. How easy would that be? lol This movie was fun and you sucked all the fun out of it. Willis kicked butt. So what if it got absurd, that’s what action movies are for. I agree the jet scene was stupid (there isnt even an F35), but I could pick apart your bad writing too just for fun. How easy would that be? lol

]]> by: travis mccrea http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10177 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:22:19 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10177 I can agree to the last bit... And will agree to disagree on the rest. :) I can agree to the last bit… And will agree to disagree on the rest. )

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10169 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:26:05 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10169 @<a href="#comment-10166" rel="nofollow">freelancer</a>: LOL! @<a href="#comment-10167" rel="nofollow">Mart</a>: Yup, we cal this Clarke's Third Law. Technology == Magic to dumb people. @<a href="#comment-10168" rel="nofollow">travis mccrea</a>: I don't agree. Matrix was a SF flick with a lot of silly computer stuff in it. But when they showed hacking inside the matrix they made it realistic. In Matrix Reloaded there is a scene where Trinity runs nmap against the attacked server, and then uses an old shhnuke exploit to gain access to the computers at the power plant. To an untrained eye it still looks like magical hacking. To me it looks realistic. Everyone wins. The stuff in Live Free or Die Hard simply prevents me from enjoying the movie because I'm to busy rolling my eyes. But again, I said that even when I decided to ignore the computer silliness the movie was unwatchable due to the plot holes, and over the silly over top stunts happening every 5 minutes. @freelancer: LOL!

@Mart: Yup, we cal this Clarke’s Third Law. Technology == Magic to dumb people.

@travis mccrea: I don’t agree. Matrix was a SF flick with a lot of silly computer stuff in it. But when they showed hacking inside the matrix they made it realistic.

In Matrix Reloaded there is a scene where Trinity runs nmap against the attacked server, and then uses an old shhnuke exploit to gain access to the computers at the power plant.

To an untrained eye it still looks like magical hacking. To me it looks realistic. Everyone wins.

The stuff in Live Free or Die Hard simply prevents me from enjoying the movie because I’m to busy rolling my eyes.

But again, I said that even when I decided to ignore the computer silliness the movie was unwatchable due to the plot holes, and over the silly over top stunts happening every 5 minutes.

]]> by: travis mccrea http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10168 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:14:19 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10168 yeah but you guys miss the point nowhere did it say this movie is based on reality... Instead of compairing it to what's real in our world take it at face value and think.."that would be so cool/scary if possible". Yeah there were plot issues... Like why go after the one backup instead of all the other financial info they had already... But everyone knows DoD databases are not even hardwired outside their building... And it's not about what they are typing they don't have time to explain how they are doing that shit. It's an action flick... Details are not important... We don't question the logic of monty python's quest for the holy Grail for the same reason we shouldn't look at it any deeper than an action flick or monty python as a comidy. However if you find an invalid documentary tell me... I'll bitch too. :) yeah but you guys miss the point nowhere did it say this movie is based on reality… Instead of compairing it to what’s real in our world take it at face value and think..”that would be so cool/scary if possible”. Yeah there were plot issues… Like why go after the one backup instead of all the other financial info they had already… But everyone knows DoD databases are not even hardwired outside their building… And it’s not about what they are typing they don’t have time to explain how they are doing that shit. It’s an action flick… Details are not important… We don’t question the logic of monty python’s quest for the holy Grail for the same reason we shouldn’t look at it any deeper than an action flick or monty python as a comidy. However if you find an invalid documentary tell me… I’ll bitch too. )

]]> by: Mart http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10167 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:22:41 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10167 @<a href="#comment-10166" rel="nofollow">freelancer</a>: LOL! Yeah! More tech-magic! I guess technology today is like wizards in fantasy-theme shows. If it doesn't make sense, just say "A wizard did it!". @freelancer:

LOL! Yeah! More tech-magic!

I guess technology today is like wizards in fantasy-theme shows. If it doesn’t make sense, just say “A wizard did it!”.

]]> by: freelancer http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10166 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:05:57 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10166 Speaking of technical adviser fuck-ups, has anyone seen the latest episodes of Prison Break? "It looks like a cellphone, but it's really like a digital black hole. Wireless harddrive that swallows up any electronic data within 20 feet of it." It makes me want to cry! Speaking of technical adviser fuck-ups, has anyone seen the latest episodes of Prison Break?
“It looks like a cellphone, but it’s really like a digital black hole. Wireless harddrive that swallows up any electronic data within 20 feet of it.”

It makes me want to cry!

]]> by: Travis McCrea http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10165 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:00:03 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10165 Did you at least catch that someones name was "Devorak" and "Linus" hidden geekisms Did you at least catch that someones name was “Devorak” and “Linus” hidden geekisms

]]> by: Mart http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10152 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:22:34 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10152 You have captured my exact thoughts while watching this in the theatre. My gf can't understand why I kept giggling whenever there's some "hack" going on. Cracked.com also has a nice article, <a href="http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do.html" rel="nofollow">5 Things Hollywood Thinks Computers Can Do</a>, in which the first part is about Die Hard 4 and the mystical all-seeing all-knowing power of <em>hack</em>. You have captured my exact thoughts while watching this in the theatre. My gf can’t understand why I kept giggling whenever there’s some “hack” going on.

Cracked.com also has a nice article, 5 Things Hollywood Thinks Computers Can Do, in which the first part is about Die Hard 4 and the mystical all-seeing all-knowing power of hack.

]]> by: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10143 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:28:40 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/09/12/live-free-or-die-stupid-aka-die-hard-4/#comment-10143 @<a href="#comment-10141" rel="nofollow">Ian Clifton</a>: LOL! Serously, I wish! @<a href="#comment-10142" rel="nofollow">freelancer</a>: I don't know why but that scene stuck in my memory. I find it disturbing on more than one level - which shows how much better this new incarnation of Bond has become. All the other recent Bond movies pretty much blend into un-recognizable mush in my mind and I wouldn't even be able to tell you what was the plot of any of them. @Ian Clifton: LOL!

Serously, I wish!

@freelancer: I don’t know why but that scene stuck in my memory. I find it disturbing on more than one level - which shows how much better this new incarnation of Bond has become. All the other recent Bond movies pretty much blend into un-recognizable mush in my mind and I wouldn’t even be able to tell you what was the plot of any of them.

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