Comments on: YouTube Removes Comedy Central Shows? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: Matt` http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1442 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:54:21 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1442

hmm.. sharemonkey is growing on me – like greasemonkey but without any grease :wink:

but pirate is probably still a cooler image.

Maybe we’re looking at this the wrong way – instead of finding a new name without the negative connotation, maybe we need to get rid of the negative connotation of the old name.

Possibly by a large campaign of positively presented pirates in all kinds of media, use the large community of people who are involved in piracy to produce comics, cartoons, videos, movies, music etc etc, all showing pirates (of the sea-faring variety or the copyright variety) in a good light

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By: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1441 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:31:50 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1441

Actually, I kinda like sharemonkeys! But then again, despite being cool monkeys may imply silly or stupid.

Robot usually implies artificial, automatic and without free will. So sharebot is probably not the best idea either.

As for ghost… Copywright maybe? lol

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By: Matt` http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1439 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:26:03 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1439

Ok, so we need to include something that has become an internet cliché for coolness… but not illegal, so ninjas are out cause theyre cool for killing people

that leaves monkeys, robots and ghosts

ghosts being transparent kinda goes with the anonymity of most illegal santas (I’m going to use that until we think of a better one)

monkeys are sorta silly/mischievous.. like how illegal santas muck around with the copyright people, and make them look silly by defeating every attempt to block them from copying and sharing

robots go with the idea of computers, the main tool of an illegal santa…

so the new word for an illegal santa could be…
copyright ghosters.. not great
share monkeys.. also not great
robot.. I got as far as robot and realised it wasnt going to be any good

damn!

this needs some more thought

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By: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1438 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:13:35 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1438

Hmm… When was the last time Santa was cool? He was awesome cause he would bring you shit for free, but I never thought he was cool like a pirate. So that one is out…

The other two are tad generic… Sigh… It’s damn hard to beat a pirate at coolness factor.

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By: Matt` http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1437 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:57:48 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1437

So to try and counter-act the effect of the “pirate” label we should come up with a new title that implies the goodness of sharing…

illegal santa?
law-stifled giver?
unfairly blocked media provider?
:wink:

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By: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1436 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:49:55 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1436

Nah, the pirate tag is very well thought out strategy. Pirates might be cool but that is irrelevant. Most people associate pirates with outlaws who sail the seas, rape, pillage and do all kinds of outrageously bad stuff.

Thus, when you call a copyright infringer a pirate you tell the general public that he is a bad guy – that he is doing something illegal – something almost as band as raping and pillaging.

The hook is that most people don’t mind being called pirates – the pirate imagery makes you cooler. They imagine themselves being these rebellious sailors, living the glorious life of crime.

The thing is though… These people are not stealing. They are not raping… They are nor pillaging either. All they are doing is exchanging bits of information over a public network, using legal, publicly available technologies and protocols.

The crime here is that some people claim that they have an exclusive right to copy certain information and ideas. This is a fundamentally flawed concept which was devised to protect writers from being exploited by owners of printing presses back in the day. Today however, all information is fluid – it’s a stream of bits that can be broken down and transmitted down the wire in a matter of seconds to any place in the world.

What worked for printed books, cannot possibly work in a world where digital communication is instant and seamless and natural.

Sow what is their crime? These people simply follow our natural instinct to share resources and information in a most convenient way. Their crime is illegal sharing. They are simply breaking information distribution laws, circumventing corporate censorship and disseminating information to the masses.

This is a very different crime from theft. So this is a very clever play on words. If we call them pirates, we indirectly imply they are thieves or criminals. But pirates are cool, so we keep doing it.

So the entertainment industry has a vested interest in making the Pirate meme stick around for a long time. It helps them to spread their propaganda that “infringment == theft”.

It’s not piracy – it’s sharing. This is one of the reasons I try to avoid saying “pirate” when referring to someone accused of copyright infringement. It gives people the wrong impression about the nature of his crime.

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By: Matt` http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1435 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:27:09 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1435

I think the real problem with the way that copyright piracy is being “tackled” is that theyre still calling it piracy, and calling the people that do it pirates

the problem here is that pirates are incredibly cool, hence copyright piracy is getting some good connotations from that and people want to be pirates so that they can imagine themselves at the wheel of a big pirate ship, letting off a barrage of cannon fire at a major corporation

If they changed the terminology so that people who made illegal copies of stuff were called copyright pussies, or copyright male-rape-victims then thered be fewer people willing to associate themselves with it.

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By: Luke http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1434 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:21:48 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1434

Yeah, it seems that they are cracking down on everyone. Btw, I love the TV links site – thanks for the link!

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By: Matt` http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1433 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:31:27 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1433

Dailymotion (great site) also got hit by some copyright stuff, now you cant find any Futurama, Family Guy or Simpsons eps through the search from the main page

Interestingly the links from sites that organise the URLs for the episodes from certain series (e.g. TV links, daily episodes, all-SP/simps/futus) still work and you can get to a lot of the stuff thats been removed. There are still gaps but a lot of it is there

Dailymotion and TV links make a great combination :)

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By: ZeWrestler http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1432 Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:35:39 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/10/28/youtube-removes-comedy-central-shows/#comment-1432

crap, that knocks out videos i had on 2 of my lj entries.
http://zewrestler.livejournal.com/302120.html
http://zewrestler.livejournal.com/282293.html

and besides that, what am i going to watch at night? i got no tv. youtube was my solution.

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