well i have had nothing but good things of my Zune sure it took me 4 hrs to install partly cuz i didnt upgrade my xp i didnt no better then sure the wifi sux cuz 3 plays but they have just shown the other features including wireless syncing and connecting to the new fords that way you have a voice activated on the go mp3 along with voice activated phone the real reason i got the zune over the i pod was the video storage it could hold somthing like 100 hrs of video on the 30GB i also like the size its not too big but not too small also its pretty resiliant ive droped it a few times from waits level but i prolly got lucky.

Cause I usually always keep at least 1 machine with at home for gaming. And it usually happens to be the one at my desk, with the comfy chair, nice mouse and keyboard so I’m comfortable. And… I’m currently sitting at my desk, so – windows.

I haven’t been following the Zune2 news but hey – maybe MS learned on their mistakes, and will do a better job this time. Anyway, Apple is back on my shit list for bricking people’s iPhones. :P

ok you win.
but … how come it says posted using firefox on xp?
the zune 2 looks pretty nice though.

1. If it’s wrapped in DRM it’s no longer your file. Microsoft graciously allows you to use it… For now. I object DRM on a philosophical and moral level. Any company that employs DRM technology essentially tells you that it considers you a thief that needs to be punished. I do not want to give them my money.

Yes, Apple does use DRM, and this is why I will never use iTunes. But at least I can take the songs that I own or ripped of the ipod and put it on another machine. Zune won’t let you do that.

2. Wifi thing is a tease feature. They hype it as if it was the best thing since the sliced bread. But it does nothing useful. There is really no real benefit of having – it’s a novelty feature at most.

3. Wrong blog for this. I probably spend more time in Linux than I spend in windows. It happens to be my primary work tool, and also my passion. I have a single WinXP machine that I use for gaming. All the other computers I own or maintain run Linux. It’s certainly not a joke to me. It might be a joke to you, but why would I buy an accessory that won’t work with most of the machines I use?

4. I know. Failed attempt at a humorous comment I guess.

5. It also made Windows. So what? I already pay the Windows tax in order to get access to good PC games. This doesn’t change the fact that they are a convicted monopolist. I don’t want to give them my money if I don’t have to. This is why I don’t own an Xbox. I’d rather choose the lesser evil and give my money to Apple, or some other mp3 player maker rather than line the pockets of Microsoft so that they can bribe more foreign comities in an attempt to certify their broken, un-usable OOXML standard.

Also, Xbox 360 is doing so well mainly because Wii is aimed at casual gaming and doesn’t have the next-gen hardware, and Sony totally dropped the ball on PS3. So by a fluke it is the only console platform on the market that has the user base and features that mainstream game development studios are looking for.

– who cares if it’s my file it’s my file. there are others
– so what i don’t see any wifi ipods
– linux is the real joke
– it comes in other colors
– microsoft made xbox. kapeesh

I think i’ll stick with my zune.

I disagree:

– wraps DRM over all the files you put on it
– wifi is a copout (3 days or 3 plays is a joke)
– won’t work with Linux
– brown
– was made by microsoft

No, thank you – I’d rather just get an iPod.

have any of you had both a zune and an ipod? no. probably not. i had an ipod 20 gb which broke so i got a zune. which my freinds is better.

Agreed. That said, PS3 is the laughing stock of the console world. Sony was the leader in the market. Playstation used to be THE platform of choice for serious gamers and developers. And somehow they managed to let all of that slip, and let Microsoft and Nintendo completely overtake them. PS3 is the Zune of the gaming market, and Xbox 360 seems to be the king at the moment. Not thanks to Microsoft of course – they just got lucky.

But I agree with everything else – MS always tries to enter existing markets that have proven over time to provide good revenues, and then tries to throw their weight around. Don’t quote me on this, but I read somewhere that MS didn’t really make any profit on the original Xbox – the slashed the prices so badly to compete with Sony and Nintendo that it was a huge money sink. But they could afford it because the huge profit margins on sales of Windows and Office. Again, I don’t have the source so this might be BS. But so I’ve heard.

And supposedly this is the same with Zune. They are just pumping money into it, hoping that they can steal enough of Apple’s market to make this whole thing profitable.

Ha! Zune? The Zune is nothing special…I actually have one and I am in the process of selling it for an iPod Video. As diskgrinder said, M$ is the type of company that goes into the market after many markets have successfully captured it. Sony Playstation is a great example of that. After over a decade of providing great consoles to consumers, Microsoft decided to jump in the bangwagon. Windows itself is another example. Many many many more companies have been creating OS’s long before Windows. Again, as M$ and their bullying tactics, they decided to take the OS market away. The Zune is the most recent example. Not only do they make the product under the Microsoft name, they market it like no tomorrow trying it to shove it up to people’s throat.

I, myself, will be buying an iMac, iPod, and many more Apple products. I seriously can never use a Microsoft product without it being reliable. Microsoft will never get things right.

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