I think the powers that be want this to be difficult. They don’t want it to be easy for people to transfer large amounts of data over the Internet. It would make copyright infringement easier, and probably enable other things they fear.

Until Windows comes with some p2p file transfer mechanism by default Alice and Bob will always have problems.

Unfortunately most of my users have not been convinced to use Firefox yet. Some do indeed use it, but not all of them.

Still, AllPeers looks interesting. I will have to look into it.

Gotta laugh over all your experiences with “clueless Lusers”. Such a thing should be easy huh?

Well if ya have talked them into using firefox, hopefully ya have then there is a FF extension, AllPeers Beta that seems like it woould do the trick. It requires that you provide an email address but communications are encrypted using SSL. I’ve never used it but it looks easy to use.

Something else I’ve never used foldershare also looks easy to use. I know nothing about it tho.

anyway just a couple thoughts.

Yes, the evil Eve. I hate that bitch! ;)

I’m tempted to just bring a Linux box to work, set it up in the corner running ssh server and then find the simplest standalone scp client in existence and give it to Bob and Alice.

But you’re talking about Bob and Alice. I thought those two were the epitome of security! If they use FTP or plain ol’ email, you know that Eve (probably the BOFH at that one company) is going to know about it!

FileZilla supports SFTP and also runs as a standalone executable. You could at least put a link to both that utility and your SFTP server to prevent Eve from getting any other files left on your server.

Anyway, you’ve presented a good problem. Good luck with it.

Chris – yeah, I know about it. It’s a great app but it probably wouldn’t work.

The problem is that Bob is probably somewhere in the field, at a random company which may have a BOFH maintaining the firewall. Alice on the other hand may actually work for a different company, with a strict security policy.

So anything that requires port forwarding, firewall configuration and etc won’t work. :(

With FTP all I really need them to do is to type in ftp://username:password@server.tld in the IE address bar. Hell, I can send them a clickable link in an email. Unfortunately the windows ftp client does not do any encryption, and IIS FTP server that I have in the office does not support SSL.

Of course Bob and Alice probably wouldn’t use encryption when transmitting files via email either cause they are idiots so this is not such a huge disadvantage.

Have you ever seen this:

http://rejetto.com/hfs/

Basically, it’s a http/file server that you run on your local PC. It’s also a single executable file so there’s no install needed.

Surely if you can walk them through downloading and installing an FTP client and populating the appropriate fields, you can walk them through reconfiguring their router. I just looked and I don’t think this software supports encryption, which, to me, wouldn’t work in your situation.

I keep this tool on my USB drive and have actually used it a few times at LAN parties and coffee shops and such.

We either set them up on Novell’s NetDrive (using Novell’s Client); a SNAP server or a share on Windows 2003. We also have an Xserve, but haven’t used it for that yet. The easiest thing to do is enable SMB for them to map the drive (if on the same network) or just SFTP stuff.

If you can secure it and monitor it, I would recommend having something like this as a backup in case people need it in the future.

Yes, I can understand that as well. But I was thinking of something where you just upload, download and then simply erase everything (which is not completely safe, but the chance of having someone intercepting is relatively low). But I admit it is not really “idiotproof”, as it is likely that someone will forget erasing, or erase too early…

Alphast – I’d rather avoid using 3rd party online sites to host the file just because it may contain confidential information. Yes, they could encrypt it, and password protect it but still.

Miloš – what do you use to set up the shares? Would it make sense for me to run it on a server here?