Comments on: TV-Links: RIP http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: tv links http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-12174 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:01:43 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-12174

Can you do an update about this tv links thing? a lot of things have changed since you created this post and it would be interesting to see the changes and also your thoughts on what happened.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-9167 Wed, 28 May 2008 17:55:46 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-9167

Yeah, I think you are right about libdvdcss2. Thanks for the clarification!

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By: arparp http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-9166 Wed, 28 May 2008 17:08:32 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-9166

All kindsa mixed up here dogg.

DeCSS and libdvdcss2 are different and in my opinion under statute should be treated differently. DeCSS was purely a circumvention tool and contained no other functionality, and distribution that 2600 did was clearly illegal according to the (admittedly kinda whack) DMCA statutes. On the other hand, libdvdcss2 has a few hurdles to jump (notably 1201(a)(2)(B)) but overall could pass muster in 1201(a)(2). The current Wikipedia article on libdvdcss2 posits the interoperability exception.

Linking to copyrighted works however isn’t about the DMCA or circumvention. It’s about infringement and liability. Fair use applies, if that was your motivation, but linking to a page whose primary purpose is infringement or a direct link to infringement is clearly contributory to that infringement. Trying to play technical games and saying the page isn’t taking the user there, the user is taking himself etc, doesn’t pass muster in any reasonable system.

P.S. IANAL.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-8993 Thu, 08 May 2008 19:47:59 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-8993

[quote post=”2037″]In Finland it is against the law to talk about breaking copyright protections. One person is waiting for the decision of high-court for using libdvdcss2.[/quote]

Well, it’s technically illegal here in US too. Libdvdcss2 is illegal under US DMCA. It’s legal to talk about it – it’s just not legal for me to tell you where to find it, post source code, or tell you in detail how to re-create it.

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By: Mats Rauhala http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-8990 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:27:35 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-8990

In Finland it is against the law to talk about breaking copyright protections. One person is waiting for the decision of high-court for using libdvdcss2.
It is also basically illegal to own a mp3 player in here since you cant make copies for even personal use.

It is getting even more retarded than the US system.

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By: Yoda http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6978 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:01:53 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6978

Another cool spot that popped up: http://www.vidictive.com

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By: Errant http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6861 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:16:46 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6861

Lol, yeh so now you know why we call it that! Makes the whole country look wickedly macho… when the truth is he probably sat in a nice comfy room for 1/2 an hr eating donuts and drinking crap coffee :D

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6860 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:14:04 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6860

Oh, hmm… Good to know. We are people divided by a common language I guess. ;) When I read arrested I think handcuffed, taken down town and held in a jail cell for few hours till someone posts bail.

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By: Errant http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6857 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:23:14 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6857

BTW ‘arrested’ in the UK simply means charged – otherwise they can’t take him to court, if that makes sense. Probability is he will just get a fine (I’m pretty sure that the criminal sentence for copyright infringement of this sort is a maximum fine).

Oh and also BTW the law is the same in the US as well :) so the same would have happened to him there :P

See were not totally screwy (uh then again…)

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By: discostoo http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6739 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:42:54 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/20/tv-links-rip/#comment-6739

It has shown though that the TV companies over here are not meeting the demand of your average internet user. TV links had 0.4% share of the entire internet “audience”. BBC, ITV etc seriously need to justify my licence fee and all that advertising and introduce some proper on demand services.

To arrest some one for linking to videos has set a dangerous precedent though, even if he was released without charge.

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