Comments on: Dell Troubleshooting Flowchart http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: Ryan http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-8015 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:22:27 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-8015

We use Dell at work and although this seem fishy, we techs have to pass a test from Dell to be able to request warranty parts for our computers that are leased. And the test costs $50. And they have recently changed the test to where it is ridiculous, half the “right ” answers are bad troubleshooting methodology. Like when a computer won’t turn on, don’t check the battery or power supply, check the wall outlet first! Or if a computer won’t boot, then make sure that it is plugged into the network, not the hard drive. WTF?! Once you pass the test, then you can request parts from a website, which is better than calling Dell the same way toilet paper is better than using your hand. However, I can say that as a consumer, Dell is awful. I played dumb, real dumb and after a tedious online chat (I get angry dealing with phone wait times and hang up often before reaching someone) and not using any technical jargon, they agreed to replace the mobo on my laptop, which was a pure hardware problem. The USB ports are coming unsolder’d off the mobo, they still work, but I bought a warranty dammit. Clearly a hardware issue and I got the reboot windows, it is your mouse (i told them I had bought two mice) INSTALL THE DRIVERS FOR YOUR MOUSE ! that should stop the physical movement of the port on my computer, right? Oh well, they are sending a tech out to replace it today. I just had to play along and got what i paid for in the end.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6681 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:53:38 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6681

Wow… At least when Dell says on-site they mean it – someone actually comes in and does the repair at your place.

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By: vacri http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6675 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:36:10 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6675

Viewsonic monitors. Back in the day we had some 21″ Viewsonic CRTs with a next-day on-site warranty. One of them had problems, so we attempted to make good on the warranty. Turns out ‘Next Day On-Site’ actually meant ‘If you still have the giant box a 21″ monitor comes in, we will send you a shipping slip to get it to our repair place”. Of course, we didn’t have the box and we were desperate for this monitor so we dropped it at their location on the other side of the city ourselves, to a rude service department. Six weeks later, the monitor is ready for pickup.

I’ve sent a few CRTs for repair in my time. It’s interesting just how many problems are ‘due to a flyback transformer’, a nice, expensive repair. Doesn’t turn on? Flyback. Ghosting? Flyback. Crackling sound? Flyback. Scratched case? Flyba… erm… Case.

My favourite repair place was a family shop that was the fastest, cheapest, friendliest of them all, plus the woman would ask us specifically not to pack the monitors up since it ‘makes it hard for my son to fit them in his car’. Hey, less effort for me :)

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6672 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:45:15 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6672

The on-site service is really the one redeeming quality of Dell support. You just don’t get quicker turnaround time than next day on-site.

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By: Miloš http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6669 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:03:38 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6669

Our experience with each of the hardware vendors at Montclair State has been the following:

Apple – one of the worst tech support lines to call over the phone; it takes forever to get them to agree that there’s a problem and that it should be covered by our warranty. However, once you get them to agree to send a box out to have the machine shipped to their site they become one of the greatest companies to deal with. Their turnaround is generally three days. Three days from when we send a laptop out until it is back in our lab completely fixed with a detailed repair report.

Dell – they have recently won around new lease contract so it’s still a bit early to have unbiased opinion. In the past, (some 4+ years ago) their tech support was great. They used a local company (NCR I believe) for on-site repairs. We didn’t have to send equipment out, they would show up next day with the right part and replace it. However, their sales force sucked a$$! Sometimes it took weeks to get a simple RFP back.

Lenovo – they have been on this campus for the past 4 years or so and my experience has been great. They are on top of things and it was a pleasure working with them. Also, in my opinion they had the best product out of all of them in their ThinkPad line.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6668 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:34:19 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6668

With laptops this is relatively easy. 80% of problems can be fixed by replacing the mobo because just about everything is integrated on it – the audio and video, the network card and whatever else you have. The only modular parts are the wifi cards which usually sit in the mini PCI slot, memory, and the CPU.

Hence, if you are replacing the mobo, you are really replacing a whole assortment of parts that might be causing the issues.

That said, they usually give you a refurb board which may or may not be busted. :( But that’s an issue for a whole other rant.

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By: jambarama http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6667 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:42:07 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/23/dell-troubleshooting-flowchart/#comment-6667

I’d say that chart is pretty accurate for dell consumer support. The small business support (with the full extended warranties) has been great for me – on the phone I get smart people who actually care that I get my computer working.

Oh the fun I’ve had with Dell technical support. I was helping a friend fix a laptop, brand new, that would just randomly turn off. Not shutdown, but as if I’d pulled the power plug and the battery simultaneously. And only when under a reasonably heavy load. He’d called support and they insisted it was his motherboard or memory and that he send in his laptop for diagnosing. He didn’t want to, so he called me.

I asked him if the fan seemed like it was on very often, he said the fan was pretty rarely on, so I thought maybe the fan is busted. I booted it up into a liveCD and set it up to labor overnight under an infinite loop overnight to see if it was Windows – it didn’t even last until long enough for me to get out the door. I didn’t have a can of air, so I blew into the fan out and a huge amount of dust went flying out the intake. The fan had been running, he was just used to an old beast of a laptop where the fan sounded like a 747 taking off. I showed him how to blow out the dust, he complied and hasn’t had a problem since. It amazed me Dell didn’t even check the CPU temp, didn’t ask about the fan running, and didn’t have him blow dust out.

On the other hand, as I said, I couldn’t be happier with the few run-ins I’ve had with dell business support. I called, reported the problem as I understood it, 2 days later a person was over with enough parts to fix the problem I suspected it was, and the problem it actually turned out to be. The Dell business section and commercial section are worlds apart – I’d get a dell latitude any day of the week (after a thinkpad or toughbook anyway), I wouldn’t touch an inspiron with a 10 foot pole.

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