Comments on: Cylons don’t know about SPOF http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: James Heaver http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9308 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:25:00 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9308

There does seem to be allot that the Skin jobs don’t understand about their own technology, they only started conversing with the hybrids a coupel of episodes when I human did it first.

I think that the Hybrid / ressurection system is, like you say, another lifeform and treated as such. The skinjobs are clearly, from the back story, a recent evolution – the same is probably true of the hyrbids and ressurection technology.

The ressurection hub may simply have evolved – it may not have been designed at all – the ressurection system may be another self improving AI, maybe it will evolve into a more distributed system, given the chance.

How long was between the two cylon wars? From what I remember it was only in the decades wasn’t it? Thats not long for systems to evolve, I think cyclons, like humans, are a work in progress.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9201 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:28:15 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9201

Well, wasn’t there a catastrophic event in their past? I believe there was a first Cylon war during which they were defeated and retreated from human space for many years, no?

But you might be right. From what we have seen, their technology is not so much built as grown. Perhaps growing a functional Hub is a very time consuming and expensive process. Or perhaps, the hub is a one of a kind bio construct (perhaps created as a fluke) and Cylon’s are having problems cloning and/or replicating it.

In the latest episode it was mentioned that only the Hybrids know where the Hub will jump next. This sort of implies that there is some connection between hybrids and the hub which could be another reason why there is only one. Perhaps hybrids are permanently bound to the hub at the time of creation, and cannot be bound to another one.

And perhaps there is a benefit of having many hybrids bound to a single hub rather than to many hubs. Perhaps they are a hive mind and the hub it their communication nexus, or perhaps the center of their shared consciousness. Although I kinda doubt that because then destroying it would just cripple the whole Cylon fleet. That just seems like keeping to many eggs in one basket.

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By: Tino http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9198 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:52:40 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9198

Yes, it would make some sense if parts of their technology are leftovers from a time of greater knowledge. Still, wouldn’t that require some kind of ‘cataclysm’ in their past? On a meta-level it is quite major plot-surgery to ascribe them significant back story events (and it could be out of sync with what will be actually shown on screen…)

Here is another attempt: maybe building the hub-tech takes a ridiculous amount of resources? Like, dyson-sphere-years of energy. In that case they may just now be struggling with gathering the resources for a second one. However, that wouldn’t explain any lax security in guarding the first one.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9195 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:10:27 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9195

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By: Mack http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9194 Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:26:47 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9194

Bitches don’t know about my SPOF

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9179 Fri, 30 May 2008 14:48:17 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9179

It could work. Did you ever read any Warhammer 40k material? In that universe the most advanced human technology was all made in the “golden age” of the Imperium and is long lost.

There Tech-Priess of Mars sort-of know how to patch up and maintain the old artifacts but it’s all half misticism and superstition. They can repair stuff but not build new copies because no one remembers how. The blueprints are gone, facilities no longer exist and no one makes the parts anymore.

In the last episode the 6 mentioned that the base star can heal itself. Which means that “skinjobs” do not necessarily need to know exactly how base stars work – if one breaks, they sit and wait till it patches itself up.

It also seems that centurions and raiders have more insight into how their technology works – for example they were able to detect the final 5 for example.

Note how the Cylons reacted when they started lobotomizing Raiders. Half of the models considered this almost sacrilegious. Raiders are sort of alive, centurions are conscious, and even base-stars are organic and controlled by a hybrid. Perhaps the Cylon view on technology is not the same as ours – they view it more as a symbiosis rather than ownership. They treat their ships the way we treat horses, cattle and livestock which supports us.

:P

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By: Tino http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9177 Fri, 30 May 2008 14:22:22 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2008/05/29/cylons-dont-know-about-spof/#comment-9177

Hey, thanks for the nod. But I think this issue is a bit large even for my plot-repairing-skills :)

A religious argument seems a bit contrived. It mean they accept a huge sacrifice of survival for religious zealotry. If they are going to that length in this case, then it should pop up and hinder them everywhere in daily life (‘no! we cannot replace that toilet-cleaning brush, because it is hooooly!’)

The only cover up attempt I can manage right now is that it really isn’t a SPOF, but the backup hubs are kept even more secret and hidden. However, this theory may quickly be negated by future episodes, I guess.

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