Comments on: Ansible Based Interstellar Internet http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: Mass Effect 2: Ansiblenet « Terminally Incoherent http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-14601 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:29:50 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-14601

[…] that no one at BioWare reads this blog. If they did, they would know that I already came up with a clever idea for galaxy wide internet based around Ansibles. In case you are to lazy to read that article let me re-iterate it […]

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By: jambarama http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-14242 Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:42:29 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-14242

Perhaps there are ways to communicate at the speed of light across vast distances. Apparently physicists have recently discovered how to “teleport energy. Maybe this can be explained away by the consistent histories theory, and the research hasn’t been published in a peer reviewed journal, so take it with a lump of salt.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-13423 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:07:03 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-13423

@ Tino:

Heh… Does that mean my torrents would start seeding before I even started downloading them? Or that online games would have negative lag?

@ Alphast:

That sounds like it could work. See, I’m quite confident that we would eventually figure out a way to extend the internet across interstellar space if we would put our minds to it. :)

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By: Alphast http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-13419 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:58:16 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-13419

I like the idea, but I suppose there is a way to turn around the no-cloning impossibility. As explained in the Wikipedia article, it is possible to produce imperfect cloning. Now, imagine that your bandwidth is four times better than in the books. With each quarter of the bandwidth, you get an approximation of your data packet. Then you interpolate the original packet out of the 4 approximations. You would be able to approximate the message content (which is binary) to such an extent that it would become intelligible. You would get loss of data, of course, but that is already the case with TCP-IP right?

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By: Tino http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-13418 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:14:58 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-13418

If I remember correctly, any form of faster-than-light communication + special relativity makes it possible to send messages back in time. So I wouldn’t worry too much about the limited bandwidth since it is combined with awesome negative ping times :D

(Basically it would work by 1) accelerating to close to the speed of light 2) use the device to send the message in that high-speed reference frame 3) quickly deaccelerate again before you have traveled any relevant distance. Everything2 has a long confusing article about this, http://tr.im/Dbm8 )

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-13415 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:58:03 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-13415

Also, LOL – the IP to Country plugin is detecting my blackberry as having a Canadian IP.

Note: I never been to Canada. Heh!

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-13414 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:46:35 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-13414

@ jambarama:

Well… Its low bandwidth because Le Guin said so. I tried to keep it close to the original idea.

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By: jambarama http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2009/10/26/ansible-based-interstellar-internet/#comment-13413 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:05:42 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=4027#comment-13413

As long as we’re inventing principles of physics to create this technology, why does it have to be low bandwidth? I mean, why can’t “simultaneity” just be a high bandwidth principle? If we can use the no-cloning principle once, we should be able to do it thousands of time in rapid succession, or to particles with lots of information? The idea is clever though, it’d be kind of like the first galaxy-wide multicast protocol.

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