Comments on: Happy Evoloterra http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: David http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/#comment-16613 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:45:03 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6220#comment-16613

This is the same way it has always worked. There were a few minor expeditions to the Americas with some crazy explorers and religious seperatists but the ball really didn’t start rolling until people figured out money was to be made here.

It will happen.. just give it to the companies and wait for the money to show up.

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By: MrPete http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/#comment-16610 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:10:47 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6220#comment-16610

Oh well, that must have been one helluva exciting time!
I read a book on the whole race to space. Twice when I was not even ten years old.
But now… everyone’s complaining about how damn expensive everything above the atmosphere is.
I think it’s a great thing that the private sector is taking care of space travel. I mean: Better a McDonalds on Mars than no humans above 30.000ft.
If you watched the first five minutes of James Camerons Avatar you might have seen the interstellar ship.
My thoughts on it? “Hell yeah, give the companies space and this is where we are in a hundred years!”

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/#comment-16609 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:00:06 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6220#comment-16609

ST/op wrote:

It will probably not be in my lifetime, though…

Yep… That’s what bothers me. We were doing it, and then we stopped and now alien worlds are just as far from being colonized as they were when we started.

@ vacri:

You are right – but those are all practical problems of manned space flight. They remain unsolved because no one is funding aggressive research into these areas. All these problems could have workable solutions.

For example, the prohibitively expensive task of launching crafts into space could become almost nonexistent if we had a working space elevator. Yes, it would be an enormous cost to build one, but perhaps it would pay for itself once we started mining rare substances out there.

The physical and psychological effects of space travel could be alleviated by constructing ships large enough to house stable communities, and provide artificial gravity via rotation.

It’s not like no one is actually working on it. People are writing about it, publishing papers, coming up with theories and ideas. It’s just that no one is actually doing anything.

Why? Because there is no money in it yet. I suspect that’s the biggest problem. Flying into space is expensive and doesn’t generate profits. And it won’t generate profits for a long time. As you said, there is just no reason for us to fly out there and colonize.

I guess I’m just disappointed with this turn of events. When I was a kid, space colonies seemed like something that was within reach. Nowadays this seems like a far fetched science fiction. It’s a bit disheartening – that’s all.

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By: vacri http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/#comment-16608 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:07:16 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6220#comment-16608

But it was just dick-waving. The only people who get excited about colonising Mars are a select subset of engineery folks. There’s no way we can get a meaningful amount of humans onto Mars to “preserve the species” even in the medium term. Not to mention the ‘preserve the species’ argument is an incredible flight of fancy in real terms.

The value out of the moon program was the side technology. We didn’t get much information out of the activities performed on the moon itself. Space exploration isn’t entertaining anymore in the age of blockbuster movies, so there’s even less reason for the average Joe to be interested in it. It doesn’t help that the answer to the eternal human question of “what is the moon” is “dead dust”, a totally anticlimactic answer for non-engineers.

Also, since the ’60s, it’s become clear that there’s a whole passel of psychology problems of isolating small groups of people for long times – it really is a hard thing to do. Remember Biosphere II? Didn’t work too well…

If your kid asks you why, why would you feel ashamed about telling them the truth? If your kid asked you why you can’t be a dragonslayer would you feel ashamed about telling them that, too? Or for something a bit more feasible, would you be ashamed at telling your kid why you can’t ride a dinosaur?

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By: ST/op http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/#comment-16605 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:38:28 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6220#comment-16605

I followed every minute of the event on a black & white TV back in 1969… And sure, I got frustrated when manned flights were cancelled.
But things have changed. Money are scarce. American astronauts now fly to the ISS in russian Soyuz spacecrafts… Who could have told!
Still, the unmanned exploration of Mars has given great results. We probably know more about this complex planet than we know about the Moon, thanks to robotic probes. But I’m sure that we eventually will get there. “We” might well be japanese or chinese astronauts, after the recent cancellation of the Constellation program, but wtf!
It will probably not be in my lifetime, though…

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By: Mark http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/07/20/happy-evoloterra/#comment-16604 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:58:51 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6220#comment-16604

Hey Luke

I guess you’re not one for conspiracy theories then…..

Anyway, if we don’t destroy ourselves first, then when we finally realise we must leave this planet to survive, at that point I suppose this day will be given the recognition it actually merits – even if the initial motivation was to beat the Commies to it!

Here in the UK there was no mention of this oon the evening news – not even in passing. However, we did get an update on lindsay lohan.

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