Comments on: Music of White Noise for Productivity http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: cptacek http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-56627 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:37:19 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-56627

Ugh. Office noise. My IT group used to sit by ourselves. Three of us, with me in the back corner, with a window, and if things got too noisy, we could shut a door. It was glorious.

They decided HR needed a space to be able to close doors. So they moved us into a large room with cubes, 12 of us. One woman’s job is to receive calls from customers. She is bright and bubbly and really good at her job, which is talking on the phone, solving customer problems, routing delivery trucks, etc. No, she is great at it. But I must listen to it. And one guy likes to make random noises by kicking his desk rhythmically.

When we first moved, I had a window in my cube that looked out onto the aisle way, but not outside. Everyone walked past that window and everyone stopped to say hi or wave. I had to have them remove it.

I have ear plugs when the volume gets too high. If I listened to music, I would sing outloud and not realize it.

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By: Dr. Azrael Tod http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28847 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:12:50 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28847

@ Luke Maciak:

See, to me both languages are transparent and words/idioms/sentences immediately evoke symbols/memories/feelings regardless of the language. So I think it’s not as much hearing the words, but their processed meaning is what trips me up when writing. Or something like that.

Well, it’s pretty much what i would say. I listen to english podcasts, watch english movies, read english texts all the day, sometimes later not even remembering if what i heard was english or german, but i find it’s that little bit of extra effort to decode english that makes it different from german music. (not that i listen to that much music with vocal elements anyway)

With podcasts it’s pretty much the other way: i can listen to german podcasts and my brain actively decides if something “important” has happend (ie: someone said my name, i start to listen consciously), if i listen to english things this happens less often. So if i listen to german podcasts, i get distracted more, but afterwards i remember more of what i heard and if it was interesting. If i listen to english podcasts i get less often distracted, but when that happens, then i am less able to continue with whatever i was doing because decoding it doesn’t happen exactly on the same subconscious level.

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By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28821 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:23:55 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28821

@ Dr. Azrael Tod:

Interesting. I’m bilingual as well, but listening to speech in my native language has about the same effect on me – it messes me up regardless of what language I’m currently writing in. Maybe it has to do with levels of fluency and how deeply each language is bound to your internal logical symbol system.

See, to me both languages are transparent and words/idioms/sentences immediately evoke symbols/memories/feelings regardless of the language. So I think it’s not as much hearing the words, but their processed meaning is what trips me up when writing. Or something like that.

@ Mitlik:

I don’t cook much but I agree about driving. That’s one of the activities where music doesn’t really bother me.

@ Chris Wellons:

Awesome LAN party picture! :P When I was in college I actually commuted from home so I think I missed out a bit on the “dorm social life” thing . That said, having my room be the “social club” would probably drive me insane.

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By: k00pa http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28820 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:15:48 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28820

I like to listen to music when I code, but its usually some trance/techno without any vocals and pretty low volume also. I can’t code in total silence, but I can’t code either if I can hear other people talking…

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By: J. Alan Atherton http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28779 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 05:35:23 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28779

I do a pretty similar thing. I work in a sometimes noisy shared lab as a grad student, and when I really need to get things done I actually play some brown noise paired with a binaural beat. I find the beat helps to draw my focus away from the outside world even better. I think I made a beat of about 20hz with sine waves frequencies something like 600hz and 620hz. If anyone’s interested I can dig them up and post them somewhere.

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By: Chris Wellons http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28749 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:46:54 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28749

Outside of the radio, I hardly ever listen to music with lyrics. For example, in my Audacious playlist right now I have the Tron: Legacy soundtrack (Daft Punk), the Medal of Honor soundtrack (the 1999 game), a jazz album (Dave Brubeck), and the new SimCity soundtrack. When I’m coding and writing I generally prefer this music to silence. But occasionally I just need to think and I prefer silence.

Here’s the weird thing: even more than that music, I feel most productive when people are holding a single conversation near me. I don’t even mean that coffeehouse ambiance but, for example, when someone comes by my officer to discuss something with my officemate for awhile. I think this is something I picked up in college.

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In college, I roomed with my closest high school friend, with whom I had been camping dozens of times growing up, in a co-ed dorm reserved specifically for engineering students. We happened to get the room closest to the elevator (8th floor). Early on, we had agreed to leave our door open when either of us were in, always make our beds, and keep the room clean, all in order to be very friendly and inviting to everyone else on the floor.

As a result, for my first two years of college our room was the social hub of the floor. People would always stop by the room on their way in and out of the building (sometimes tracking in melted snow!). The tidy, made beds doubled as open seating along the wall. In fact, this is how I met my wife, since she was one of these people hanging around our room all the time. With all this social activity I quickly learned to get classwork done amidst it. So now I even prefer it.

Here are a couple of pictures. Note that these were taken about 10 years ago. Here are people sitting on the beds.

http://i.imgur.com/GJzruDb.jpg (none of the people mentioned above are depicted here)

Here’s a small LAN party, picturing the other side of the room. There were two more people wielding laptops on the beds behind us (the corner of one showing) for a total of 6 players. We’re playing the brand new Battlefield Vietnam.

http://i.imgur.com/416d7Xp.jpg (my roommate on the far left, I’m not in this one either)

I think the “engineering students” part speaks for itself here.

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By: Scott Anderson http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28748 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:38:16 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28748

I usually listen to a podcast. When programming, I listen to trance. I find I am more productive that way. Thanks for the “coffee shop” ambiance link. I was looking for this type of noise for quiet some time.

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By: Mitlik http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28745 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:58:14 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28745

I can relate to the plight of sounds invading thought space. I need something to obfuscate the guy across the aisle micromanaging his kids from work, the girl on the other side of the cube wall making stupid voices and giggling on the phone, and the same 30 radio hits from various decades. I agree with you, headphones don’t need noise running through them, they work wonderfully to muffle the noise a little bit. Sometimes I even upgrade to foam ear plugs.

About the only times I feel I need sound is when I am cooking or driving. Both require visual focus without engaging language (for the most part).

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By: Dr. Azrael Tod http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2013/03/13/music-of-white-noise-for-productivity/#comment-28742 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:35:39 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=14045#comment-28742

well.. beeing german and speaking/reading/writing in german helps!
Most music i listen to comes either with english lyrics or without. But since i dont think english (even while coding) it doesn’t seem to affect me.

Even worse: i can listen to podcasts (german/english, it doesn’t matter) while coding or writing. It’s not important what those people in my brain are talking about, most of the time i’m not listening to them anyway.
But hearing something at all is pretty nice.

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