Comments on: Missing Recycle Bin http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/ I will not fix your computer. Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.26 By: Luke Maciak http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17567 Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:14:02 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17567

@ Dale Davis:

Well, the problem with technology these days is that it is a huge interconnected ecosystem. Many problems are emergent – they stem from the fact that two or more systems that were never designed to interact, suddenly find themselves in an environment where one can affect the other.

I don’t know if you have read my blog for long enough, but some regulars may remember my old FedEx story from years ago. I used to work in a 2nd floor office and our Wireless router stood right by the window, that was located directly above the back entrance to the building. At one pint our Wifi started dropping around twice or three times a day for no reason.

I replaced the router, wifi cards, spent the time looking at the logs trying to figure out the cause of the problem and could not identify it. But every day we would lose our wifi around the same time: around 10am then 1pm and finally after 5pm. The signal would just drop, everyone would start freaking out, yelling at the IT guys for and we would run around like crazy people trying not to trample the poor Fedex guy who always seemed to be delivering mail when we had these issues.

Eventually this turned into a running joke – every time someone would spot a FedEx truck pulling into the parking lot, they would yell “Fedex is here, prepare for Wifi to go down in 3, 2, 1…” and of course it would drop – like on a queue. But what could Fedex have to do with Wifi? Must be a weird coincidence, no?

Guess what though? It was the wireless transmitter in the FedEx truck. When they were making deliveries, they would park it right below our wifi router. We moved the router and asked the Fedex guy to park few feet away from that spot, and it resolved our issue.

Many problems are just like that – things that you wouldn’t even consider. Sometimes errors and technical problems are caused by long chain of dependencies or conditions that must be just right. But they are all ultimately solvable. Just sometimes you have to be a little bit of a Sherlock Holmes to crack these things. It is usually easier to just throw new software and hardware at the problem until it goes away.

I recommend that you check out my Intractable IT Problems for some more examples of stuff just like that. Problems that none of us knows how to solve with any degree of finality. But that doesn’t mean technology is somehow malicious.

In fact, personifying and anthropomorphizing your computers can’t be good thing

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By: Dale Davis http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17563 Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:03:13 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17563

I am happy to know that these posts go through a moderation procedure. If my previous one is too long or inappropriate, please don’t hesitate to delete it It only shows my respect and appreciation for those of you who do these web sites for free.

Please, by all means, delete this message since it is only an explanation.

Dale

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By: Dale Davis http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17562 Wed, 27 Oct 2010 05:56:43 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17562

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Geek bent…Congratulations! You are blessed with trait that I can only goggle at in amazement. I have had a computer since 1985 and still am in the incompetent stage. My mind just isn’t wired to understand computers and the wires I have are rapidly coming unglued as time passes. I have a couple of long suffering gurus who used to ask “Now what did you do?” I have finally convinced them that I don’t know enough to chance experimenting with my machines (yes, I have 4 and with luck, they all add up to one good machine) but still have things happen like being in Outlook Express reading a message in my Dogesy box then clicking on the Choanie box, finishing there and clicking on Dale again and Voila there are no messages. My Guru assured me that they were still in the machine. When pressed, he admitted that he couldn’t find them, but stoutly stood by his statement. OR the many times that my internal network of router and machines suddenly comes unglued and I call him in. He puts everything back in apple pie order. The machine sits there muttering for a few days, then diabolically stops again. This happened over and over again over a period of a year. Even my Guru now speaks in low tones in its presence and makes signs while throwing salt over his left shoulder. Though that problem and others have finally gone away I have finally come to the conclusion that computers are alive and malevolently do their best to confuse, confound and befuddle me at every turn. I believe my Gurus now agree, though they won’t admit such a thing for fear that other mortals will think them mad.

I’m sure that your frustrations must at times be almost overpowering and the desire to bodily eject your incompetent pleaders from your presence must be repressed mightily. I frequently found myself in just such a situation when I was flying actively and instructing in the Navy and with a major airline where ejection could have slightly more serious side effects than at ground level or even a few feet above.

In my own case, I often find that I can’t even describe exactly what is happening to the Guru’s understanding and many times can’t remember some of the steps that preceded my current disaster. Of course, my wife of 60 years tells me that I never had a memory, lovingly of course… I think. I don’t believe I have reached the extremes you quoted above, but I do sometimes have to ask for a repeat of what he told me a week or so ago.

In short, I am more frustrated at my incompetence than you could ever be, so what I’m trying to say in all this convoluted post is to bear with me and those like me and that I thank you, my Gurus and others who put up with it and continue to help me when I so desperately need it. The string about the frozen printer queue was one that has bugged me for years and no one could give me a simple way of correcting it. You and your fellow Geeks (said with a bow) have gone out of your way to help.

Your efforts are not in vain. I have discovered a treasure trove of help and ideas in your posts

Thank you all and my blessing on all of you!

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By: Andrew Zimmerman http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17450 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:17:29 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17450

HEY! What Do You Know!
Another phrase I become murderous on hearing..

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By: MrPete http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17447 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:40:03 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17447

Matt` wrote:

1. Establish early on that you don’t do tech support for free.
2. Charge a stupidity tax for time wasters.

THIS is exactly the way I prevent my “friends” from taking me for free electrical works in their homes.
I tell them what I charge per hour on weekends or after work and everythings fine…

Next time try this:
1. Click once (!) on an icon (‘one program symbol’ for illiterates) on the desktop (‘screen’ for total illiterates).
2. Take the keyboard (without clicking anywhere else)
3. Type the letters R E C Y
4. Look which icon (‘program symbol’) is highlighted now.
Works for me… and a bunch of people that accidentally renamed their Firefox/IE/whatever and didn’t remember where it went but could remember that they named it “Internet Access”…

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By: dk http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17441 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:50:20 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17441

I think this shit forms a kind of cultural narrative for anyone who happens to have the misfortune of knowing their way around a PC. Maybe a few hundred years ago a decent apprenticeship sufficiently addressed this sort of thing – I’m not sure. Every IT person knows a real Johnny Sumbitch incapable of visiting a website or opening a document without first getting his PC fucked six ways and sideways, contracting a virus, or deleting a critical system file. Count yourselves lucky if the people asking for help are dipshit luddites – once people who really know what they’re doing start calling you for tech support and you find yourself diagnosing obscure kernel load latency issues or worse you will know what it means to be well and truly fucked. If you’re enterprising you might leverage that kind of thing into a career. If you happen to already have one, though, you start contemplating the fascinating world of animal husbandry so friends of friends in some data center on the other side of the goddamn planet aren’t calling you all hours of the day to fix shit they shouldn’t be using if they can’t keep it running. Assholes.

At least it hasn’t made me bitter.

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By: Sameer http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17437 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:13:14 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17437

I have a few standing appointments to visit friends whose computers “just stopped working” or just became very slow for no apparent reason. It’s not their fault I’m sure, they only play those free pokergames. No harm in that right?

I’ve started using a remote desktop application for my Iphone (Teamviewer) and whenever I help the hopeless I install the desktop client and leave a big shiny shortcut where they can find it. There is a free version. I found it really useful especially if my internet connection is fast enough or on wifi. Saves me quite a bit of time and frustration (most of the time).

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By: Mart http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17435 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:10:59 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17435

There are some I know who are “software engineers” by job title that ask these kind of dumb questions. :-S

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By: copperfish http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17434 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:55:26 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17434

Getting paid isn’t the answer. My time is worth more to me than the rate that tech support services charge. I just tell people to call Dial-a-Nerd.

I’m with @Travis on the Ubuntu thing. I haven’t had my own Windows machine since 8.04 I don’t even keep Windows related apps and tools on hand. I usually find that most people run in terror if I offer to help them by installing Ubuntu.

Of course if they do agree you’re in for a worse fate. Yes they won’t get a virus but you’ll get the “I bought Microsoft Publisher to create pretty cards and it won’t install!” and “Where’s Internet Explorer?” support calls.

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By: MrJones http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2010/10/11/missing-recycle-bin/#comment-17433 Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:34:19 +0000 http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/?p=6649#comment-17433

Im always like “Seems like your Windows is broken, that happens to a lot of people. Maybe you should consider buying a new computer”

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