Mark Helprin – Trolling NYTimes like a Pro!

I am impressed! I always thought that you can’t really post a blatant troll in a respectable, renowned, mainstream magazine like NY Times. And yet Mr. Mark Helprin has proved that a crafty writer can sneak a clever troll just about anywhere. His article is a masterfully crafted flamebait. If NY Times was a forum, it would be set ablaze in a matter of seconds. Most of forum trolls are more or less a precise, laser guided hits. This one is different. It’s like a napalm drop – designed to heat large area and infuriate as many people as possible. It’s subtle enough that it passed through the NY Times editorial BS filter, and yet arrogantly stupid, and needling enough to solidly piss you off. Just check out the title:

A Great Idea Lives Forever. Shouldn’t Its Copyright?

Blam! I’m already annoyed, and that’s just the title. It get’s better from there. You start reading the article and you go:

“Come on Helprin, you must be joking! No one can be this stupid, and short sighted!”

And then it hits you! It’s like an instant epiphany:

“Oh! I see what you did there!” It’s a troll! A NY Times troll!

Mr. Helprin – I salute you. Posting a blatant, vacuous, anti-intellectual, shallow flamebait in NY Times is quite an achievement – and this is why you get a link from here. Your trolling ways have impressed and amused me.

Anyway, if you see any other articles or publications by this dude, make sure you take them with a grain of salt. Mark Helprin is a Troll and so standard troll handling procedure should apply here: ignore it.

[tags]troll, ny times, mark helprin, copyright, public domain[/tags]

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6 Responses to Mark Helprin – Trolling NYTimes like a Pro!

  1. eexlebots UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Ignore the Troll, he’ll leave and start posting in some other forums like the Washington Post or BBC World News or something like that.

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  2. onan FRANCE Opera Windows says:

    how come that so many people today still promote the myth of troll handling through ignorance and indifference.
    this advice relevant to newsgroup, is towards newbies who aren’t aware of what trolling is, but this never was and never will be an adequate global response/solution.
    I’m still amazed by how many smart people can believe that closing eyes, covering ears, and crying out loud “BLABLABLA!” hoping their problem will be hidden from their sight when they stop acting stupid.

    here’s a worthy read back from 2002 “on ignoring trolls”: http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_ignorance.html

    “We are never so likely to settle a question rightly as when we discuss it freely.”
    – Thomas Babington

    “There are two ways to slice easily through life; to believe everything or to doubt everything. Both ways save us from thinking.”
    – Alfred Korzybski

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  3. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    I’m all for being open minded, and I rarely label anyone a troll. Hell, I will take time out of my busy day to explain things to people, and I like to debate about controversial topic.

    But sometimes a troll is a troll. It is supposed to be inflammatory, it is supposed to be exaggerated, outrageous and miss the point by a mile. And this is when I choose not to get involved in the discussion.

    It’s just a waste of time and resources at this point. What is the point of debating a person who doesn’t seem to have any inclination to even consider compromise? Why would I debate someone who sees the discussion that can be won by viciously attacking anyone who does not agree with his carefully crafted, inflammatory statements?

    Trolls think that they do something productive. That they incite conversation, and make valid points and show people new ways of thinking. Sometimes they do. Most often however they simply are just an annoyance and a distraction.

    And if a person labeled a troll will redeem himself by actually doing something worth while like Torvald mentioned in the article, then we will happily reinstate him as a human being, publicly admit we were wrong, and retroactively give him credit for being right all along.

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  4. onan FRANCE Opera Windows says:

    A troll has never been meant to be applied to a person. Troll as a noun qualifies a post, a writings, a discussion and what followed. Troll in the usual accepted sense that is.

    Nowadays many seem to use it to qualify a person and here are the definition what a troll is, when used that way:

    “I find that the term “troll” means pretty much nothing, or it just means “somebody doing something I don’t like.” – Theresa Robinson

    “…a term of abuse that is levelled both at genuinely problematic users and users with contentious but potentially legitimate views.” – Mark Richards

    On the Internet, “today, the word troll are both verb and noun, and are applied loosely to any outsider. If you don’t like someone’s manners, he is a troll. If you don’t like a gadfly, he is a troll. If you don’t like a philosopher, he is a troll. If you don’t like a inquirer, he is a troll. If you don’t like a humorist, he is a troll. If you don’t like a teacher, he is a troll. If you don’t like witches, they are, well, witches and must be witch-hunted.” (see ad hominem and witchhunt). “Thusly, from weirdo to witches, from teachers to philosophers, from gadfly to firebrand, from loner to gay, they are all trolls online at your call. Quick spun the guild of killfilers and troll-criers. Anyone who has contrariwise things to say or the manner of saying it is a troll.” – “troll ignorance”, Xah Lee

    Apart from a seemingly confusion between a troll and a flamebait in your saying, all you just replied is mostly speculations about the author intents, and faulty thinking (asking other to behave as you wish to fix your own errors…). I’d like to point you to Hanlon’s razor: “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”.

    In the domain of copyright and intellectual property, stupidity seems (at least to me) to prevail and many not to say most of people who have an opinion on that matter are clueless and lack the firm grasp required to understand the matter at hand.

    About labelling other troll, it might help you cope with something you dislike but:

    “Whatever you say it is, it isn’t. ”
    Alfred Korzybski

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  5. Luke UNITED STATES Mozilla Firefox Ubuntu Linux says:

    So essentially what you are saying is that I give Mark Helrpin to much credit, right? I guess we could chalk this article up to ignorance and stupidity.

    I just felt that this was to intelligently written for someone who doesn’t seem to understand anything about copyright. But then again I might have been wrong.

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